BLM Protests

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 13:01

Why would you change white culture too? From what i can see its mostly blacks and other minority groups making most of the trouble in USA, ignoring the fact that it all comes down to their culture is just idiotic.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 09:29

I'm not a sociology expert but I'd say the most important things to change would be prejudices and predisposition to talk things out instead of ignoring them or putting them aside

Calling a culture idiotic when you don't even know it or just saying that blacks seek trouble doesn't solve nor prove anything. You seem to insinuate that all blacks and minorities are violent, and all cause of their culture, which makes them behave like that... I don't see that happening here in Spain for example, why would that be?

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 13:01

Adapting a good culture to fit a crappy one is not the way to go, i mean following your logic you could also say we need to change outselves to fit ISIS, how can one dare to say there is something wrong with their culture.

How do you measure a good culture?
ISIS is 100% violent, thus the way to fit our behaviour to theirs is by being violent against them. Do not make your own thoughts on what I said.
There is something wrong in EVERY culture.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 16:36

Calling a culture idiotic when you don't even know it or just saying that blacks seek trouble doesn't solve nor prove anything. You seem to insinuate that all blacks and minorities are violent, and all cause of their culture, which makes them behave like that... I don't see that happening here in Spain for example, why would that be?

Comparing Afro-Americans with Black people from spain is moronic at best. In America a significant amount of Afro-Americans feel entitled to slavery reparations, or even to this date they believe "The Man" is keeping them down.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 16:36

Calling a culture idiotic when you don't even know it or just saying that blacks seek trouble doesn't solve nor prove anything. You seem to insinuate that all blacks and minorities are violent, and all cause of their culture, which makes them behave like that... I don't see that happening here in Spain for example, why would that be?

blacks make up about 13% of US population, yet they are responsible for over half of crimes in USA, how do you explain the fact in last 50 years number of black families wihtout a father has jumped up about 70%, explain to me why most of the police officers killed are killed by blacks....

Ill spare you the trouble, the problem is their culture, which needs to be changed and improved, its wrong to change a good culture to suit the bad one!

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 12.07.2016 at 16:57

Comparing Afro-Americans with Black people from spain is moronic at best. In America a significant amount of Afro-Americans feel entitled to slavery reparations, or even to this date they believe "The Man" is keeping them down.

Hence the problem is not "black culture" but "usa culture" in general.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 17:17

blacks make up about 13% of US population, yet they are responsible for over half of crimes in USA, how do you explain the fact in last 50 years number of black families wihtout a father has jumped up about 70%, explain to me why most of the police officers killed are killed by blacks....

Ill spare you the trouble, the problem is their culture, which needs to be changed and improved, its wrong to change a good culture to suit the bad one!

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 18:00

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 12.07.2016 at 16:57

Comparing Afro-Americans with Black people from spain is moronic at best. In America a significant amount of Afro-Americans feel entitled to slavery reparations, or even to this date they believe "The Man" is keeping them down.

Hence the problem is not "black culture" but "usa culture" in general.

The problem is not "black culture", it's "usa culture"... so go ahead, and change it. But I'm afraid usa people are too stubborn and too proud to even notice when they're wrong.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 18:01

The problem is not "black culture", it's "usa culture"... so go ahead, and change it. But I'm afraid usa people are too stubborn and too proud to even notice when they're wrong.

USA culture? im pretty sure that if there is such a culture it is a combination of white european culture, hispanic culture, black culture, asian etc etc...

I gave you many expamples that clearly show problem is with blacks and hispanics, not with others (whites, asians etc), yet you constantly try to push the colective blame or white guilt.
Either stop whining how poor blacks dindu nuffin and give me a proper argument as to why white culture needs to change and what is wrong with it or just stop spewing BS and move on.

Kirjoittanut Earthbound, 12.07.2016 at 17:29

*They are covicted more for the same crimes.

We live in a country were a person like Donald Trump can ram company after company into the ground with no consequences. Meanwhile some black kid gets his life ruined for a gram of pot.

Give me proof blacks are punished more for the same crimes as whites for example.

I dont think someone can get his life ruined for some drugs on small scale, if drugs ruined his life its either because he consumed it or because he was the one selling them.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 18:09

USA culture? im pretty sure that if there is such a culture it is a combination of white european culture, hispanic culture, black culture, asian etc etc...

I gave you many expamples that clearly show problem is with blacks and hispanics, not with others (whites, asians etc), yet you constantly try to push the colective blame or white guilt.
Either stop whining how poor blacks dindu nuffin and give me a proper argument as to why white culture needs to change and what is wrong with it or just stop spewing BS and move on.

Black people do not live alone in the USA.... the reasons of their actions is quite connected with their enviroment. Do not ever blame a "culture" for its actions, because an action is not only pushed by a culture.... it's a mix many factors (including white people and everything, which could be considered as USA culture). As you said, it's a mix of everything. There's no such thing as a "black culture"... it's something only developed in USA due to their circumstances there.... there's no such thing as white, black or hispanic guilt. Everyone is guilty of everything. That's why USA culture exists and that's why it has to change, all of it.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 18:24

Black people do not live alone in the USA.... the reasons of their actions is quite connected with their enviroment. Do not ever blame a "culture" for its actions, because an action is not only pushed by a culture.... it's a mix many factors (including white people and everything, which could be considered as USA culture). As you said, it's a mix of everything. There's no such thing as a "black culture"... it's something only developed in USA due to their circumstances there.... there's no such thing as white, black or hispanic guilt. Everyone is guilty of everything. That's why USA culture exists and that's why it has to change, all of it.

Bit hypocritcal to say "There's no such thing as a "black culture" when just few posts above you were reffering to white and black culture and how both need to change (now you reffer to it as "USA culture".

Another important sentance "Everyone is guilty of everything." , like i said above, stop with the collective blame.

You can keep on ignoring the obvious facts and dream of your perfect world where everyone is the same and nobody has resposnsability for anything but that wont take you anywhere.

Kirjoittanut Earthbound, 12.07.2016 at 18:32

5 times as many whites use drugs as African Americans, yet blacks are convicted at 10x the rate.

http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet

And, drug sentence can ruin your life bc in the us, it's on your permanent record forever - even if you arnt convicted.

A site so clearly biased towards blacks its even in their name lel

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 16:27

you're calling all blacks criminals.

Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 12.07.2016 at 16:12

I'm not telling any black people to feel guilty or holding any individuals accountable

No point in having a discussion if you're not even going to properly read what I've written.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 19:48

Bit hypocritcal to say "There's no such thing as a "black culture" when just few posts above you were reffering to white and black culture and how both need to change (now you reffer to it as "USA culture".

Another important sentance "Everyone is guilty of everything." , like i said above, stop with the collective blame.

You can keep on ignoring the obvious facts and dream of your perfect world where everyone is the same and nobody has resposnsability for anything but that wont take you anywhere.

If you have to change USA culture, then obviously, you need to change black and white culture. USA culture = white + black + the rest. Is that so hard to understand? I've already said it, it's all mixed and under mutual influence.

This is a society, meaning everyone is at fault since everything is interconnected.

Perfect? I'm just giving you a hint on how the world actually works. You seem to forget that people is interconnected and that actions take place just cause some guy is bored enough...

Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 12.07.2016 at 19:56

No point in having a discussion if you're not even going to properly read what I've written.

In that case why do you insist in changing the whole "black culture" if it is only a problem within some very specific cases? Aren't you generalising too much then? Why not simply stating that you should change the culture of those cases which actually comit a crime? You keep souding like you're contradicting yourself. One time, you generalise to every single black, the next paragraph you say you're just refering to particular individuals?

I give up, its pointless to argue with liberals these days...

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 21:21

I give up, its pointless to argue with liberals these days...

Who said I'm a liberal? Is that what you call people trying to give you a hint about how society works? Idk your age, nor I care about it, but things aren't that easy to understand in real life. There are plenty of circunstances and factors that influence human actions. You should probably study psychology if you really wanna know more, which I doubt you do.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 21:18

In that case why do you insist in changing the whole "black culture" if it is only a problem within some very specific cases? Aren't you generalising too much then? Why not simply stating that you should change the culture of those cases which actually comit a crime? You keep souding like you're contradicting yourself. One time, you generalise to every single black, the next paragraph you say you're just refering to particular individuals?

Except I never generalized "to every single black". I said the black community has a culture of violence problem, which it objectively does using any metric. Please stop splitting hairs and speaking around the issue. You think you are doing black people a favor and you think you are defending them, you are actually doing the opposite.

I'm sick of going in circles with you people. If you actually gave a shit about black people you would speak out against black violence. You would hold violent criminals accountable. You would recognize that the people who suffer the most from black violence are OTHER BLACK PEOPLE. Instead you're just trying to come across as a sophisticated open minded lefty.

Kirjoittanut Checkmate., 12.07.2016 at 22:22

Zzz
tl;dr

Typical flat-earther

Kirjoittanut Earthbound, 09.07.2016 at 13:50

Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 09.07.2016 at 12:26

Kirjoittanut Earthbound, 09.07.2016 at 10:41

Systematic inequality and endemic poverty absolutely contribute to producing these statistics, which you point out. Yet, most psychologists point out that a pervasive belief that black men are only "murderers and rapists" denies them significant opportunities in society and in terms of socioeconomic advancement. When I see people posts statistics like this, it confirms this stereotype: "Black people are just killers, so they're lives don't actually matter." Imagine how many teachers, employers, police think like this: black people are just destined to be violent.

Actually it's white liberals who implicitly admit to believing this when they deny black people their agency and excuse black violent & criminal behavior as a systemic failure. It's the most extreme arrogance to assume that every problem goes back to the white man. I don't believe in destiny, I think black people can repair their broken communities by looking at their own problems instead of blaming the bogeyman. Does racism "systemic" or otherwise exist in America? Yes of course. Does it explain or excuse away the problems that plague blacks? Absolutely not, most of those are self inflicted.

It's a matter of perspective. While you think an African American resorts to crime because he is lazy and stupid, I think its because he probably grew up in a household with an absent father, a drug addicted mother, and went to a underfunded school where the teachers assumed he was destined to fail. While you think African American neighborhoods are poor because they want it to be, I think its because they weren't considered fully human until the 60's, and had to deal with implicit racial bias as recent as the early 90's.

Conservatives like simple - binary solutions to complex problems. "Black people are poor and commit violent crime, its because the they don't want to succeed - we cant do anything about it." "We don't like Mexicans, build a wall." "The EU is bad, lets just leave it."

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Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 21:21

I give up, its pointless to argue with liberals these days...

Sounds familiar

Kirjoittanut Earthbound, 12.07.2016 at 21:32

Kirjoittanut Evic, 12.07.2016 at 21:21

I give up, its pointless to argue with liberals these days...

You going respond that study I posted or not. I guess it's difficult to argue with the facts.

You are cherrypicking data, you use one crime where blacks are overrepresented and completaly ignore other, more serious types of crime where they are actually underrepresented.

The very fact a minority in the country is responsible for majority of the crime says it all.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 12.07.2016 at 18:00

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 12.07.2016 at 16:57

Comparing Afro-Americans with Black people from spain is moronic at best. In America a significant amount of Afro-Americans feel entitled to slavery reparations, or even to this date they believe "The Man" is keeping them down.

Hence the problem is not "black culture" but "usa culture" in general.

If is not the culture, then perhaps is the color of the skin. Other Minorities don't have any issues with the american culture, they "assimilate" properly.

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 13.07.2016 at 07:09

If is not the culture, then perhaps is the color of the skin. Other Minorities don't have any issues with the american culture, they "assimilate" properly.

Are you serious now? Are you gonna tell me no other than black people are involved in criminal activities? Not even whites? I don't care about the percentage. As long as there's a single criminal of a determined color, then that culture is simply wrong for bringing up such criminal....

And I want a list of what do people have to assimilate from usa culture

Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 12.07.2016 at 22:20

Except I never generalized "to every single black". I said the black community has a culture of violence problem, which it objectively does using any metric. Please stop splitting hairs and speaking around the issue. You think you are doing black people a favor and you think you are defending them, you are actually doing the opposite.

I'm sick of going in circles with you people. If you actually gave a shit about black people you would speak out against black violence. You would hold violent criminals accountable. You would recognize that the people who suffer the most from black violence are OTHER BLACK PEOPLE. Instead you're just trying to come across as a sophisticated open minded lefty.

Problem is that you don't seem to understand my message at all.... I don't give a damn shit about usa in general. My opinion is that as much as blacks are involved in trouble, so are every single other etnicities living there. The country as a whole is a big mess. Is this clear enough for you to understand? All I'm saying is that you shouldn't shit on blacks alone. Recognize there's a much bigger problem in usa than just blacks. Usa wouldn't turn into heaven just by getting rid of black people. And if you want to get rid of criminal, get rid of criminals of every single color, including whites such as Trump and many other corrupt politicians.

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 13.07.2016 at 11:57

Problem is that you don't seem to understand my message at all.... I don't give a damn shit about usa in general. My opinion is that as much as blacks are involved in trouble, so are every single other etnicities living there. The country as a whole is a big mess. Is this clear enough for you to understand? All I'm saying is that you shouldn't shit on blacks alone. Recognize there's a much bigger problem in usa than just blacks. Usa wouldn't turn into heaven just by getting rid of black people. And if you want to get rid of criminal, get rid of criminals of every single color, including whites such as Trump and many other corrupt politicians.

So your contribution to the conversation is that everybody has problems? Try telling us something we don't already know.

Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 13.07.2016 at 12:33

So your contribution to the conversation is that everybody has problems? Try telling us something we don't already know.

Next time, try not to blame all of usa's mess on blacks and I won't have to remind you something so basic

Btw, that's what I've been saying this whole time, everyone is guilty of everything happening in the usa. Not my fault that you didnt understand in the first place XD

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 13.07.2016 at 11:53

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 13.07.2016 at 07:09

If is not the culture, then perhaps is the color of the skin. Other Minorities don't have any issues with the american culture, they "assimilate" properly.

Are you serious now? Are you gonna tell me no other than black people are involved in criminal activities? Not even whites? I don't care about the percentage. As long as there's a single criminal of a determined color, then that culture is simply wrong for bringing up such criminal....

And I want a list of what do people have to assimilate from usa culture

If you don't care about percentages then you don't care about facts. Black culture is a bastardization of American culture, it spreads along ghettos enclaves populated by black people. If you don't believe that particular cultures can be trash, then There is no other way to express this issue other than using racial arguments and Darwinism.

American culture can't be explained in a single post, but I can tell you two things that could help black people become better Americans: respect authority such as cops, and get a good role model such as Ben carson, instead of trying to be a ganster.

Someone make a Mexican Lives Matter for Tunder, so that he doesn't get kicked when Trump takes office <3

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 13.07.2016 at 13:22

If you don't care about percentages then you don't care about facts. Black culture is a bastardization of American culture, it spreads along ghettos enclaves populated by black people. If you don't believe that particular cultures can be trash, then There is no other way to express this issue other than using racial arguments and Darwinism.

American culture can't be explained in a single post, but I can tell you two things that could help black people become better Americans: respect authority such as cops, and get a good role model such as Ben carson, instead of trying to be a ganster.

Why do you think black people live in ghettos in the first place? Because they wanted? I believe most cultures are trash, but there are explanations to why these cultures are trash, there's past to it. You guys just focus on numbers and not its reasons for happening... that's not how society is studied.

So you're implying that all people from other etnicities besides blacks always respect authorities (can be cops, can be teachers, can be parents, can be governemnt, etc.)? Do you believe an authority should always be respected? And do you believe that their childhoob dream was to become gangster or rather he had no choice in order to survive?

See? You only look at numbers or mere and simple facts with no background study. Sociology is harder than you guys think...

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 13.07.2016 at 12:45

Next time, try not to blame all of usa's mess on blacks and I won't have to remind you something so basic

I challenge you to show me where I said that all America's problems are black people's fault. I'll be waiting pal.

BLM is a terrorist group with no ground. A black Harvard economist just did a study and showed that in a confrontation, a white guy is more likely to get shot by cops than a black guy. Media race bating.