Why do clans fail?

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Lähettänyt Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 - 20:15

I feel like there has never been a dicussion for this, but many people probably wonder, why do new clans fail? And what does it take for a new clan to strive?

Many people want to make a clan for a few reasons here are the main ones in my opinion
1.) Want there name on something
2.) Building a legacy
3.) For a group of friends
4.) Map making

Arguably many more categories but this is what I think. Not many clans in this era lets say 2013 until now have actually made it.

The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. Or some times egos can clash. Many clans died early on in the begginning heres a few; Bactria, American Pie Titans, Praetorian Clans , Immortal Spartans, Doomsday, The Outsiders, Pars, Alpha Omega. These are all new clans that couldn't make it past the first month. Some other clans that have died but showed potential are State of Mind and Killa Instinct.

The question is why? Why did these clans fail? Many of these founders of these clans were very excited to start something and it failed? Was it the lack of recruitment? I think it has to do with veterans not wanting to join their clans and the unwillingness to train someone. The only way you can be successful is by giving others a shot. For example, Syndicate was a major player in most of these clans today. Syndicate was basically the breeding ground of most people, myself included. Syndicate does things not many clans do which is give players a shot, maybe not as much today since Spart is inactive.

By complaining how this community does not have enough competitive clans is partially everyones fault, for not wanting to train new players. These new players could go out and make a clan like I did. It leads back to my point about clans failing because of not wanting to train lower ranks or give them a chance.

Another thing I see is clan hopping, many notable players are bouncing from clan to clan and not being able to find a spot. Losing a big name in your clan is never a good thing and it hurts a clans confidence moving forward. One of my reccomendations is not letting in any of these clan hoppers unless they are for real about wanting to stay and join. Un loyal members kill clans.. Thats why clans like Stalins, Syndicate, Illyria, MK, evoL and others are here. All of them have a group of core players who are loyal to one another.

I'm just trying to give people tips if they are looking to make a new clan that wont fail, clans are scarce already and I'd like to see some more, but i'd also like to hear your guys opinion on why new clans fail.

Aston Martin Elite Slayers Postit: 31	21.03.2015 - 13:59 Aston Martin Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD ss or lies ---- Power, Beauty, Soul. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Gonzo. Käyttäjä poistettu	21.03.2015 - 20:12 Gonzo. Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut Aston Martin, 21.03.2015 at 13:59 Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD ss or lies Agreed! Show me ss? Ladataan... Ladataan...
Gonzo. Käyttäjä poistettu	21.03.2015 - 20:13 Gonzo. Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD Ladataan... Ladataan...
Stryko Käyttäjä poistettu	+3 21.03.2015 - 20:41 Stryko Käyttäjä poistettu You just need members who can take all the Banter. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Soldier001 Käyttäjä poistettu	+1 22.03.2015 - 04:54 Soldier001 Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Ladataan... Ladataan...
Croat Paradox Postit: 7244 Lähettäjä: Kroatia	22.03.2015 - 04:56 Croat Kirjoittanut Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
Mauzer Panteri Mortal Kombat Postit: 1811 Lähettäjä: Serbia	+7 22.03.2015 - 15:44 Mauzer Panteri Cuz noobs. ---- http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14714&topicsearch=&page= Ladataan... Ladataan...
Gonzo. Käyttäjä poistettu	+1 22.03.2015 - 16:21 Gonzo. Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Kirjoittanut Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax Good question . That would be a big NO. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Croat Paradox Postit: 7244 Lähettäjä: Kroatia	22.03.2015 - 19:50 Croat Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 22.03.2015 at 17:13 Thanks for all the clan's hate.I won't ask you Croat,i know the answer. Everything you know is relative cause knowledge wants to be based on truth, but there is no absolute truth, so everything you know is means nothing to me. Btw, nice rank up ax ax axax axaxaxax ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
Your Mother Illyria Postit: 1274 Lähettäjä: Valko-Venäjä	22.03.2015 - 20:04 Your Mother Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Death1812 Käyttäjä poistettu	22.03.2015 - 20:06 Death1812 Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Kaliraa zizonists Postit: 207	+6 22.03.2015 - 21:01 Kaliraa It's because people take the game too seriously, and treat it like a job, instead of a hobby, caring too much about mistakes. Ladataan... Ladataan...
KUNG PAO evoL Postit: 362 Lähettäjä: USA	23.03.2015 - 08:58 KUNG PAO Clans fail because artism ---- "evoL is that place you go to to find yourself and then ditch when you're pro and want to hang out with the other players we made" - Sasori Ladataan... Ladataan...
Sixstars Dalmati Postit: 316 Lähettäjä: Norja	23.03.2015 - 13:12 Sixstars What is happening with the thread! ---- Anything is possible for me as long as I set my mind to it. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Amsterdam Dead Rabbits Postit: 1	23.03.2015 - 14:08 Amsterdam Kirjoittanut Sixstars, 23.03.2015 at 13:12 What is happening with the thread! its going down the same road as bob did Ladataan... Ladataan...
cascaval Postit: 239 Lähettäjä: Romania	26.03.2015 - 21:08 cascaval Kirjoittanut Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 at 20:15 The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. #stateofmind ---- Moldova is Romania Ladataan... Ladataan...
Exo-R Käyttäjä poistettu	11.04.2015 - 03:06 Exo-R Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut cascaval, 26.03.2015 at 21:08 Kirjoittanut Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 at 20:15 The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. #stateofmind nice to stole our name Ladataan... Ladataan...
Legate Soldius Käyttäjä poistettu	11.04.2015 - 04:52 Legate Soldius Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Kirjoittanut Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax tito doesn't like pavle anymore Ladataan... Ladataan...
Netre The Immortals Postit: 574 Lähettäjä: Irlanti	15.04.2015 - 07:18 Netre Kirjoittanut KUNG PAO, 23.03.2015 at 08:58 Clans fail because artism Artism? surely being creative would be beneficial to a coalition xd ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
chill Illyria Postit: 966 Lähettäjä: Irlanti	+1 15.04.2015 - 14:33 chill Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. Ladataan... Ladataan...
(deleted) Käyttäjä poistettu	15.04.2015 - 19:05 (deleted) Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.04.2015 at 04:52 Kirjoittanut Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Kirjoittanut Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Kirjoittanut ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax tito doesn't like pavle anymore Ladataan... Ladataan...
Mobster (Valvoja) Paradox Postit: 716 Lähettäjä: Turkki	16.04.2015 - 15:04 Mobster (Valvoja) Pars died? just passive for some days. Ladataan... Ladataan...
(deleted) Käyttäjä poistettu	16.04.2015 - 17:21 (deleted) Käyttäjä poistettu SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) Ladataan... Ladataan...
Soldier001 Käyttäjä poistettu	+1 16.04.2015 - 17:25 Soldier001 Käyttäjä poistettu Kirjoittanut Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose cws Ladataan... Ladataan...
Google Shadow Aces Postit: 2705 Lähettäjä: USA	16.04.2015 - 22:24 Google Kirjoittanut Guest, 16.04.2015 at 17:25 Kirjoittanut Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose all cws ---- Helpful Guides Ladataan... Ladataan...
1GodofWar1 ENIGMA Postit: 2779 Lähettäjä: USA	05.05.2015 - 16:04 1GodofWar1 Kirjoittanut Guest, 16.04.2015 at 17:25 Kirjoittanut Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose cws XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAAXAXAX ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
Helly Sons of Mars Postit: 5389 Lähettäjä: USA	+1 09.05.2015 - 07:00 Helly I belive clans fail mostly because you throw complete strangers at each other and they pretend to like each other for a while then get bored and look for people they like better. But sometimes brotherhood is forged aND you get super groups. ---- We are not the same- I am a Martian. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Phoenix Aristokrats Postit: 2578 Lähettäjä: UK	27.05.2015 - 15:43 Phoenix Kirjoittanut Helly, 09.05.2015 at 07:00 I belive clans fail mostly because you throw complete strangers at each other and they pretend to like each other for a while then get bored and look for people they like better. But sometimes brotherhood is forged aND you get super groups. Hell knows ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
Phoenix Aristokrats Postit: 2578 Lähettäjä: UK	26.08.2015 - 20:49 Phoenix I can tell you why they start to fail. The founders who made the clan in their vision go afk.... The vision goes afk with them and the leadership left starts wondering what they're supposed to do. Sooner or later that leadership starts to fall apart aswell because what they thought the clan was starts to mismatch with reality - they need their true leader (the founder) and you end up with all the derp players left hanging around, wondering when their leaders will come back. Only they've found other hobbies, interests, clans or w/e by that point. I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
chill Illyria Postit: 966 Lähettäjä: Irlanti	+3 26.08.2015 - 21:36 chill Kirjoittanut Phoenix, 26.08.2015 at 20:49 I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. bonker has left sm over 100 times Ladataan... Ladataan...

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