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Kirjoittanut Ivan, 14.12.2017 at 02:01
Kirjoittanut IHavok, 13.12.2017 at 21:06
Are these units destroyed when you take a city? It would be neat if these units become permanently tied to a city whenever you build them, kinda like a double edged weapon if you don't use it properly
Yes, they're destroyed. I was thinking of them staying permanently, but we currently don't have mechanisms in place for that, unfortunately. Maybe in the future.
Having "capturable" buildings (or even units?) would be a nice addition to custom maps and scenarios. For exemple, we could CAPTURE the ring (to rule them all), or prevent the Silmarils from being destroyed. Support 
Only for custom maps though.You see this option you suggest might destroy europe 10k games or default map in general.
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Kirjoittanut Nations, 15.12.2017 at 04:11
Kirjoittanut Ivan, 14.12.2017 at 02:01
Kirjoittanut IHavok, 13.12.2017 at 21:06
Are these units destroyed when you take a city? It would be neat if these units become permanently tied to a city whenever you build them, kinda like a double edged weapon if you don't use it properly
Yes, they're destroyed. I was thinking of them staying permanently, but we currently don't have mechanisms in place for that, unfortunately. Maybe in the future.
Having "capturable" buildings (or even units?) would be a nice addition to custom maps and scenarios. For exemple, we could CAPTURE the ring (to rule them all), or prevent the Silmarils from being destroyed. Support
Only for custom maps though.You see this option you suggest might destroy europe 10k games or default map in general.
I totally agree
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Kirjoittanut Freeland, 13.12.2017 at 08:23
Great idea. Supported.
Another idea i have is the classic starcraft idea and upgraded units. Like you make a research facility and have it research a troop type that leads to improvements of the troop. I don't know how the coding would work etc, but if there was a way that i could go GW, make an expensive research facility to upgrade my militia/marines, i think it would help people with strong money skills scale well into the late game. Just a thought. For example make this research facility a "city" that's 5k to make, and every time you want to upgrade a troop, you have to put x dollars money down research grant, and wait x turns for the research to be completed, and implemented.
I personally would make it not included on a city, rather it's own city that after it is destroyed, your troops go back to normal/ the research that has been completed. This would add more complication to defending, since you have to defend your capital and this facility. Plus would promote multi-front attacks. To avoid issues, you can only destroy this facility, not hijack it.
Perhaps the city with the research facility rocks a triangle, while the normal cities are circles, and your capital rocks the flag.
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Kirjoittanut IHavok, 14.12.2017 at 21:30
Kirjoittanut Nations, 14.12.2017 at 02:30
Kirjoittanut Ivan, 14.12.2017 at 02:01
Kirjoittanut IHavok, 13.12.2017 at 21:06
Are these units destroyed when you take a city? It would be neat if these units become permanently tied to a city whenever you build them, kinda like a double edged weapon if you don't use it properly
Yes, they're destroyed. I was think of them staying permanently, but we currently don't have mechanisms in place for that, unfortunately. Maybe in the future.
I think you should never change them being destroyed.Because if my opponent wants to troll or he is just stupid he will spam buildings in all his cities giving me upkeep i didnt ask for and buildings i might not need at all.
Why your opponent would want to troll you? If I'm your opponent, and I'm losing my land, I'll try to make you as miserable as I can so I can beat you, and that is a perfectly valid strategy, it makes perfect sense to let you as much burden as I can in my former territory
What you describe isnt a strategy.Its just trolling that occurs in rp.
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Kirjoittanut Nations, 15.12.2017 at 07:30
Kirjoittanut IHavok, 14.12.2017 at 21:30
Kirjoittanut Nations, 14.12.2017 at 02:30
Kirjoittanut Ivan, 14.12.2017 at 02:01
Kirjoittanut IHavok, 13.12.2017 at 21:06
Are these units destroyed when you take a city? It would be neat if these units become permanently tied to a city whenever you build them, kinda like a double edged weapon if you don't use it properly
Yes, they're destroyed. I was think of them staying permanently, but we currently don't have mechanisms in place for that, unfortunately. Maybe in the future.
I think you should never change them being destroyed.Because if my opponent wants to troll or he is just stupid he will spam buildings in all his cities giving me upkeep i didnt ask for and buildings i might not need at all.
Why your opponent would want to troll you? If I'm your opponent, and I'm losing my land, I'll try to make you as miserable as I can so I can beat you, and that is a perfectly valid strategy, it makes perfect sense to let you as much burden as I can in my former territory
What you describe isnt a strategy.Its just trolling that occurs in rp.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, but if I play against you someday, I'll make sure to make as many rp walls as I can
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The problem is these would never work in competitive, scenarios, world maps, high income games ofcourse they will....
Bank: I thought was ok but in competitive it'll be bad because the 70 upkeep + 700 cost outweighed the -upkeep of units, possibly make it far cheaper and only effect units inside *capitals* instead of all units as a whole. But as it is perfect for world maps and high income maps.
Coastal battery: We already have this in scenarios for a long time, same with everything the cost is too much and wouldn't have a use in competitive. No-one will buy this to defend vs destroyers as not many go nc (not largely useful anywhere)
Anti-air defence: This is worst idea, we already have them as a unit and they don't get used. Delete it now.
Radar array: Good idea but we have sentries that will become useless.
To make buildings useful i think we should have another incentive such as;
Banks: Rework the bank to increase income per turn for capitals +10
Radar array: Requirements to build APCS + a defensive bonus (aswell as true sight for invisibles)
Coastal batterys(renamed to ports): Requirements to build Aircraft carriers + defensive bonus
Another building idea Barracks, too have 700 cost, 70 upkeep + defensive bonus and requirements to build snipers
The new units:
Snipers: No attack or defensive value but +10 attack to units with the lowest defence + 1/3 chance to hit general 180 cost 9 upkeep.
Aircraft carrier: Creates 1 unit per reinforcements turn 430 cost and 14 upkeep
APC: Transports 5 units, 7 range, 330 cost and 17 upkeep
These are ideas with not much thought process just another idea!
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Kirjoittanut Guest, 15.12.2017 at 17:59
we should make an rp
why an
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Id like to see a building that recruits a new general if the old 1 dies.
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Id like to see a building that recruits a new general if the old 1 dies.
Hope you trolling.
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As i said on a previous topic, wouldn't that be possible to give the opportunity to recruit, once / game, an air marshall or a field officer ?
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I think this is a step toward empire management that this game did not need to take.
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Consider what happens when you build all of these wonderful buildings, and then your enemy takes some key income provinces from you and the buildings you made cost such a big portion of your income that you are unable to muster a great enough force to defeat your enemy. In effect once the momentum of the battle turned against you your defeat would be all but inevitable.
so to counter this you build only a few buildings in key provinces but in doing so the effect you gain from them is too small to be worth the money and as a consequence has almost no effect on the game.
I don't see a win here.
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Also maybe we can interdouce town houses and office building industreal maybe etc...
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Banks: Rework the bank to increase income per turn for capitals +10
support. But this would only be useful in long games. Id also like to see a short term return bank that pays for itself quickly and would be worth buying in <25 turn game. Your suggestion is better for a long game as it keeps scaling.
my suggestion would be 200 income a turn(130 in reality due to 70 upkeep). Pays for itself in 5-6 turns.
Also imo if a city is taken by an enemy the buildings should be destroyed.
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Investments ?
international power like the UN to bother the hostile nations ?
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Just perhaps any sort of building to increase income, in any balanced way you see fit.
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Kirjoittanut Ivan, 13.12.2017 at 02:59
Kirjoittanut RatWar, 08.12.2017 at 18:39
~ as others have posted, I would fully support a Market or Bank or some sort of Commerce Building that would have negative maintenance costs, so that it would be effectively a modest source of additional income.
Added Bank building, it currently reduces upkeep of every unit in the city by 10. Unfortunately, I noticed that it's not reflected correctly in the Finances menu and in the bottom toolbar, that's something that will need to be fixed. But the amount of money you actually receive per turn is correct.
Does this mean that if you have a unit that has an upkeep cost of less than 10, you end up with a net negative upkeep for the unit if placed in the building?
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Imagine if bomber and stealth bomber have extra attack against building, this could make the game more unpredictable and interesting.
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Buildings make my strategies even better i will dominate the earth in no time!
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Hmm, could this take away the whole premium bonuses though, +1 def is nice to non premiums but kinda was one of the points of having premium. Plus, if you are blitz and can move them, then you could stack buildings, giving a certain city like +4 def to each unit making it impossible to beat.
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But tbh I think they are really cool
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Hmm, could this take away the whole premium bonuses though, +1 def is nice to non premiums but kinda was one of the points of having premium. Plus, if you are blitz and can move them, then you could stack buildings, giving a certain city like +4 def to each unit making it impossible to beat.
building could be exempt from blitzkrieg.
New strategies like Scorch Earth and hold the line may affect building ( My prediction).
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I like this idea.
Any chance we could get a hybrid of faction-specific and city specific unit recruitment so that we could make buildings only available in certain cities while at the same time limiting the unit types to the faction being played?
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If we can have a conquerable building rather than destroying it, this could be beneficial to scorch earth strategy.
-> Scorth Earth Strategy: you can have building that is a special unit in replace of a environment that is bad for supply route and infrastructure.
-> You can build a special building .. lets called it a "weakened infrastructure building unit " that affect all unit stat like -1 defence to all unit in that city
* Because of destructive environment problem your enemy should have bad supply route, thus weakening your invading enemy's soldier.
-> you can do a strategic retreat and allow your enemy to take it . But when you get strong you can attack back with better efficiency against a captured city with a " weakened infrastructure building unit".
->But With Scorcth Earth strategy the special unit would be destroy absolutely free when conquering back your city.
* my limit would be: If you build it the same turn as the attacker that special unit won't be created but building it a turn before it
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I was thinking, what if you created a unit what would be able to move, until you "built" it. Like a fortress that you get to place on the map. This would be a great inclusion to a WWII map especially, as it would make "Fortress Europe" a reality.
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#removeupkeepfromdiscoveredcities
because no turkey would like to find coastal battery in greece or ukr want to find anti air in istanbul/izmir/ any jewed shit and have to pay for its costs
coastal battery is very useless in competitive nobody uses shit load of destroyers/rarely someone uses air units
pretty sure nobody will buy them they will only be like rare units and im pretty sure that competitive games will have them disabled for their expense D
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Let's test buildings !
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Buildings allow new strategies as "industrial warfare" or whatever, some ideas for additional effects:
- reduced overall income&supply (not effective to have wealthy land with a building-strategy)
- buildings increase economy (effect is inverse to growing number of cities/peoples/income, let's say factories make boom low populated areas)
- buildings have a big discount + give more HP for troops in cities (better condition)
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There are far to many people burping out nonsense on here, with little or no idea how anything works on aw. This needs major balancing and my suggestion is creating a focus group with actual conceptual knowledge of the game to get further ideas from. Far to many people are one trick ponies who only play one game type and are making suggestions twards benefiting there niche game type, while there ideas would completely destabilize or ruin other people's games.
My suggestions are as follows,
-Varying price based on usefulness, rather then a flat rate of 700.
- Cheaper in general, maybe no more then 500 for any current unit.
-Capture base percentage, give a 10% chance to be captured rather then destroyed.
-Scorched earth special feature, to destroy your own buildings at will.
- Attack order, make sure they are the last thing attacked when attacking a city, unless your scorched earth then it is the first thing attacked. Note scorched earth loses the ability to capture anything.
-Turn off random chance to find in a city, the price is to high and would seriously hamper low income games such as in Africa or poor maps.
- Customizable, give us map creator tools to create and make are own unique structures, this way people can add there ideas they have here to there spacific map niche without ruining other people's map preferences.
If I think of anything else I'll add it here. Be careful going forward with this at all, the wrong moves or decisions could completly destroy this game. Vice versa if executed correctly this could be the shake up the game desperately needs.
Upvote if you agree so the admins will notice.
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Kirjoittanut Helly, 15.02.2018 at 11:37
There are far to many people burping out nonsense on here, with little or no idea how anything works on aw. This needs major balancing and my suggestion is creating a focus group with actual conceptual knowledge of the game to get further ideas from. Far to many people are one trick ponies who only play one game type and are making suggestions twards benefiting there niche game type, while there ideas would completely destabilize or ruin other people's games.
My suggestions are as follows,
-Varying price based on usefulness, rather then a flat rate of 700.
- Cheaper in general, maybe no more then 500 for any current unit.
-Capture base percentage, give a 10% chance to be captured rather then destroyed.
-Scorched earth special feature, to destroy your own buildings at will.
- Attack order, make sure they are the last thing attacked when attacking a city, unless your scorched earth then it is the first thing attacked. Note scorched earth loses the ability to capture anything.
-Turn off random chance to find in a city, the price is to high and would seriously hamper low income games such as in Africa or poor maps.
- Customizable, give us map creator tools to create and make are own unique structures, this way people can add there ideas they have here to there spacific map niche without ruining other people's map preferences.
If I think of anything else I'll add it here. Be careful going forward with this at all, the wrong moves or decisions could completly destroy this game. Vice versa if executed correctly this could be the shake up the game desperately needs.
Upvote if you agree so the admins will notice.
Best one so far I think everyone can agree c 
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 bump any word on these
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Kirjoittanut Mr Tyler, 01.06.2018 at 17:14
bump any word on these
clovis probably working too hard on map editor
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Can't test buildings in normal game situations due to having no upgrades in game server.
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Whatever
give beginners all upgrades
make it more competetive
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