WW2 Remake(the best scenario)

George Bush AKA Witch-doctor and I are attempting to restore the version of WW2 that was deleted by our resident community nutcase.

It is called "Old WWII Remake V1". I've promoted it. There's still work to be done to restore it to its' original standard. We are mostly going off old videos and memory to restore all the events and units. I'm using "we" but 99% of the work is being done by WD so a big big thanks to him.

If you remember any events/units that haven't been included in the map please mail myself or witch so we can add them. Balance suggestions are welcome too. The goal is to get a good level of balance while remaining as historically accurate as possible.

Lets get some games going!

Glad to hear it, all I really remember from the old days was Germany wasn't as stupidly overpowered as Unleashed made it to be in his remake. After all that was the only country he played. Best of luck with the map/scenario !

After some research on forums i will post here anything that seems useful. Some things I noticed are that sappers and mines are missing and the french special infatry french legion.

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=13308&board_page=2

Page 3 of this has Unleashed talking about some balance changes
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=22912&topicsearch=&page=3

Some screenshots here
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=39657

A short video by skend here
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=38224

A very nice detailed tutorial but sadly is for the nation of brazil
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=37229

Hope those seem useful.

Kirjoittanut JUGERS2, 30.12.2020 at 07:09

A very nice detailed tutorial
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=37229

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Good stuff Jug!

I know you already know, but China needs balancing vs Japan. China used to have 30 fighter event units in southwest at turn 5. And around 20 infantries in northern part.

Both Usa had special air trans event t1(I don't remember the capacity but it was 100% more than 6/8)

Legend says... if u say unleashed 3 times he will start spaming ur inbox with toxic messages via alt

Kirjoittanut Froyer, 30.12.2020 at 08:41

Both Usa had special air trans event t1(I don't remember the capacity but it was 100% more than 6/8)

I added the missing b-29 superfortress unit. USA Atlantic starts with 10 in Washington and 5 In New York. I double checked my ww2 video and made sure this was correct.

I remember USSR had trucks so he could transfer the units from siberia volga etc faster

-USSR had turn 1 event infantry in vladivostok. I don't remember how much however, I believe the total amount of troops there was 21 which makes it 11.
-USSR had a special unit called ''Snipers'', these were ground stealth with 4-5 stats and a +2 defense vs infantry and waffen ss (I am not sure what the stats were but I believe this is accurate)
-Germany started with an event wall around Leningrad, the wall constituted of a total 6 Tiger I tanks, with pairs of 2.
-The French had a special unit, the French Foreign Legion which was was +1 attack +10 cost compared to normal infantry.
-To add onto Waffel's Chinese (Flying Tigers) 3 cities of 10 reinf, these had a capital that was outside of the map.
-USA Pacific started with an event in mainland China, I believe it was 10 b17s.

I think there were trenches between Normandy and New York and USA had a nuke silo around Montana

Kirjoittanut The_Empirezz, 30.12.2020 at 13:45

-USSR had turn 1 event infantry in vladivostok. I don't remember how much however, I believe the total amount of troops there was 21 which makes it 11.

50+

U could def Vladivostok with like 75 units, Manchuria could att with like 110+

Also trucks in Volda, Ural, Siberia are needed to make SSSR less boring. Lastest versions had them. 2 trucks with 10 capacity in these 3 regions caps.

Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 30.12.2020 at 15:22

Kirjoittanut The_Empirezz, 30.12.2020 at 13:45

-USSR had turn 1 event infantry in vladivostok. I don't remember how much however, I believe the total amount of troops there was 21 which makes it 11.

50+

U could def Vladivostok with like 75 units, Manchuria could att with like 110+

Also trucks in Volda, Ural, Siberia are needed to make SSSR less boring. Lastest versions had them. 2 trucks with 10 capacity in these 3 regions caps.

I think you are right about the 50 troops yeah. I think it was not a port though so ussr couldnt rush Japan.

Kirjoittanut The_Empirezz, 30.12.2020 at 15:26

I think you are right about the 50 troops yeah. I think it was not a port though so ussr couldnt rush Japan.

Y Vladivostk wasnt port, but from Nahodka u could att Japan.

Kirjoittanut The_Empirezz, 30.12.2020 at 13:45

-USA Pacific started with an event in mainland China, I believe it was 10 b17s.

I think in unleasheds most recent version those 10 b17's were replaced by the event tigers china received

Kirjoittanut The_Empirezz, 30.12.2020 at 13:45

-USSR had turn 1 event infantry in vladivostok. I don't remember how much however, I believe the total amount of troops there was 21 which makes it 11.
-The French had a special unit, the French Foreign Legion which was was +1 attack +10 cost compared to normal infantry.

Here is what vladivostok looked like in some random SS unleash posted.


I can't really tell if there was inf or conscript in vladivostok

As for the French Foreign Legion, which french do you mean? Vichy france or charles de gaulle?

This is an image of china from my video t2


I changed china southwest and made it identical with the 3 ROC airforce cities with a cap outside the map




There was this image of china unleash posted


It looks like china starts with over 100 event units t1. Not sure if that would be balanced.

It seems there are 3 units that could be added.

French Foreign Legion
Trucks
Snipers

If anyone remember any stats about them, like their cost,att,def, what side gets them, etc... it would be immensely useful.

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2020 at 18:44

There was this image of china unleash posted


It looks like china starts with over 100 event units t1. Not sure if that would be balanced.

Those unleasheds screenshots are outdated I think. The most recent version had no lakes as far as i remember and those 100 event units is just no-no.

Though I felt yesterday that china was pretty loaded income wise. I feel like China used to have lesser income, though could be because I played LB most of the times. So not sure about that.

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2020 at 18:39

As for the French Foreign Legion, which french do you mean? Vichy france or charles de gaulle?

I believe both of them had it.

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 30.12.2020 at 19:19

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2020 at 18:44

There was this image of china unleash posted


It looks like china starts with over 100 event units t1. Not sure if that would be balanced.

Those unleasheds screenshots are outdated I think. The most recent version had no lakes as far as i remember and those 100 event units is just no-no.

Though I felt yesterday that china was pretty loaded income wise. I feel like China used to have lesser income, though could be because I played LB most of the times. So not sure about that.

India also had no rivers what I remember.

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2020 at 18:49

It seems there are 3 units that could be added.

French Foreign Legion
Trucks
Snipers

If anyone remember any stats about them, like their cost,att,def, what side gets them, etc... it would be immensely useful.

Sappers and mines too pls. French foreign legion was used by both frances i think but might be wrong. It was 100% used by Vichy.

Snipers added to Russia
French Foreign Legion added to frenchies

Ya china and india had no rivers

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 30.12.2020 at 16:08

I think in unleasheds most recent version those 10 b17's were replaced by the event tigers china received

Water u new abut UsA Ist, gou spik abouit Chajna, u Dogon trajb number.

Dont remake it i will ask xbugs to hack it and delete it

I am a few days late but empi referenced it earlier with respect to India: most rivers did not exist in the original ult ww2. Unleashed added a ton of rivers and the screenshots posted are from his version. Doesn't matter to me but just be aware that a lot of the OG stuff was before there were rivers (like in the screenshot there is a river running from Japanese China to Chinese China which changes the map due to transports)

Blitz USA is op, played the map a day ago. 198 American troops in Europe t3. And another 50 reinforcement two turns later due to couldn't use all us reinf. Then reinforcement turn grabbed another 100 to Europe t7 that added total of 300+ units in Europe before turn 10.
That's why unleashed used walls. To counter balance USA

Kirjoittanut Richthofen, 04.01.2021 at 14:54

Blitz USA is op, played the map a day ago. 198 American troops in Europe t3. And another 50 reinforcement two turns later due to couldn't use all us reinf. Then reinforcement turn grabbed another 100 to Europe t7 that added total of 300+ units in Europe before turn 10.
That's why unleashed used walls. To counter balance USA

Dude, IF Reich and you lost lol