America is Racist

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 31.10.2019 at 05:03

Do you live in your parents' basement and have a victim mentality towards life, and then spam this site because the only thing you identify with in life is your race?

So we've gone from claiming I'm a dangerous 'nazi' who you accuse of spitting hate and seeking genocide, to now claiming I'm an unemployed loner living with his parents?

To all those reading, this is how they operate and how to spot them. Their lines of attack change. First he was the SJW fearful of hate and desiring equality, and now he's the snarky conservative gleefully attacking my perceived economic and social status. If this continued, I have no doubt the next line of attack would be claims of jealousy and envy of his tribal wealth and power that he previously denied. If you read through his past messages, he goes into statistics and effortposting rhetoric when debating Tirpitz. He'd use the occasional insult but still made some attempts at pretending he held some principled stance as to why Tirpitz should just roll over and let his country burn. But with me, he's done nothing but attack, attack, attack, trying his absolute best to avoid any actual discussion, setting conditions, unwinnable scenarios and attempting to shut me down through social smearing and backroom whispers. None of it has worked. He cannot compete in the realm of philsophy and practical application into reality, because he has no answers. He's a self-admitted neo-liberal that agrees with EVERYTHING the status quo does.

He's changed the line of attack from progressive to conservative. His previous attacks didn't work. They were deconstructed. This is all he has left: more unfalsifiable claims which are irrelevant to the discussion, but it exposes him if you read into it. It exposes the fact he has no principled stand on any of these issues. He attacks based on 'spreading hate and supremacy' but in previous messages eagerly claim whites were inferior. He claims to want equality and equity, but attacks me on perceived economic and social conditions. One can only conclude that he doesn't care about 'racism' or 'inequality'. He uses both as an attack and a defense, switching based on which benefits the most at the time. So why does he do this? His worldview doesn't stem from political theory, but a DEEPLY neurotically opposition to any sentiment of European nativism. Hdrakon makes clear, brazen ethno-nationalist statements and justifies the horrors of Israeli policy towards its minority population and neighbours.... and C Sharp... likes his posts? LOL. Weird, don't you think? The is only conclusion that can be made of C Sharp's motives: Tribal Supremacy, with Europeans perceived as the primal antagonist.

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 31.10.2019 at 05:03

Less than 0.1% of people hold the views you do.

This is a false claim. A super majority of people oppose immigration, the majority support left leaning economics, the majority are socially conservative and the majority oppose aggressive foreign policies/occupations in the Middle East. It is you who holds views of the 1%, or should I say... the 2%.

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 31.10.2019 at 05:03

Anyways, it's not worth wasting my time on some random kid on a browser game. Have fun

And there we have it. He eagerly and happily debates others he accuses of being 'racists' and 'nazis', but he fears me. He wrote effortpost after effortpost debating Tirpitz and others for years, but he disengages from me. He engaged before, but now, he just can't do it anymore.

I allegorically nailed him to a cross.

Kirjoittanut Tik-Tok, 30.10.2019 at 14:58

C Sharp does not hold a philosophical view. He is a Jewish Identitarian. His worldview is molded by what is useful to his tribe. His neo-liberalism is a tried and tested political variant which is the best vehicle for those interests, nothing more. You've naive if you think he holds some autistic loyalty to a political theory.

Kirjoittanut Tik-Tok, 30.10.2019 at 14:58

C Sharp doesn't give a fuck about these things. The man is a zionist who supports a Jewish ethno-state but also demands that all European nations open their borders and accept a disastrous fate as a dwindling minority. He is gleeful about this.

He has no principle except his own tribal supremacism, and any accusations he makes against other nativist sentiment is just a projection of how he feels and how his interests act out in the world. His worldview leads to genocide, his worldview leads to inequality, his worldview is racist, and his worldview is as evil as it gets; personified as such:

"ONE RULE FOR ME,
ONE RULE FOR YOU"

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 31.10.2019 at 05:12

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 30.10.2019 at 13:39

Well, I like my people, and I don't want my people to lose it's land. Germany is our safe space, it's our home. It's nobody else's home, and I want us to keep it. Why would I want people to take over our land? Look, if we accept millions of Asians, our home would become like Asia, and I don't want that. You may argue, that a country more like Hong Kong would give us a higher standard of living, but I don't want to live in Hong Kong, I want to live in Germany, among other Germans. Yes, of course, if all you care about is money, then you would take the Asian, but my home is more than just monetary value. Btw, I wouldn't mind some really low migration rates, like 4000, 5000, of absolute geniusses, but as soon as these people don't interbreed with the local population at higher rates than new migrants can come in, the shape of our country is changing to whatever the migrants bring.

But yea, you'll just claim I'm hateful I presume. You know what, if that's what you want to think, go ahead, I don't care.

Of course there is nothing wrong with Germans wanting to be among others of the German ethnicity. As long as race isn't a factor , the majority of people in society, even left-wing people, would agree with you that cultures have a right to continue to exist.

Lol. This is the most indirect waying of saying "Germans of German ancenstry don't have a right to exist, a German is a social contruct"

When normal people say "Chinese", "African", "Japense", "Arabian" everyone pictures some one with that respective ancenstry. But why when you and other progressives say "German", "Anglo" or "insert european ethnicity here" why does your kind always implies that those terms should be ethnically ambiguous? I believe your behaviour is intellectually dishonest.

Like, you might as well tell him "Your Tribe has a right to exist as long as I, not you, get to decide who is part of your tribe and who is not"

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 31.10.2019 at 06:27

Are you trying to tell me who is and is not German? Somebody of German ancestry, with German culture is German. Nobody else. You can't tell us who we have to accept. I don't get what your issue is, with letting people define themselves as they wish. It's not just some language and tribal costumes, it's blood, and you trying to tell me who is and isn't German is proposterous. It's not just a tradition I wish to preserve, it's an ethnicity.

Love it. Moral fortitude. Self-determined. He does not get to make the rules. He does not get to dictate the tone. Fuck his rules.

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 31.10.2019 at 22:22

Like, you might as well tell him "Your Tribe has a right to exist as long as I, not you, get to decide who is part of your tribe and who is not"

Exactly. C Sharp speaks from an incredibly unjustified position of power. There's only one group of people I ever hear speak like this, and speak as if they hold power over these things. This is a quote from C Sharp directed at Tirpitz from a year ago:

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 11.11.2018 at 20:36

germany isn't your damn country. You are merely a citizen in it.

"You are merely a citizen in it."
"You are mere cattle. I dictate who and what this state and system is. Not you, peasant. Your 10,000 year connection to this land and people and all it represents is meaningless now, I decide what it is. And I hated what it was."

Pure. Fucking. Evil. Total dehuamnisation and atomisation. This is the language of hatred. It is the language of someone who perceives they wield enormous power and authority, and eagerly seeks this authority to bludgeon Tirpitz with a brutalist message dictating that he is nothing. This is literary 'Brutalism'.

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 01.11.2019 at 13:26

Your anti-semitic/racist views are very clear to all, as I've stated several times. Anyways, I won't bother engaging with someone who is incapable of seeing other human beings as equal. Have fun debating HDrakon or whoever else will bother.

I respect your effort in creating arguments that are well thought out (even if hateful), but that effort should probably be redirected into doing something productive in your real life, instead of attacking fellow human beings just for being a different race or religion.

Oh really? That's an odd thing for you to say. I think your clear rampant hypocrisy and hatred deserves its own thread. I have over 1100 posts for your too look through and not once have I said anything hateful or violent. It's up to you to prove it. Critique, observation and philosophy are not hateful, but you have said many, many hateful, gleeful and supremacist statements for years, mostly directed at any kind of European nativism.

Kirjoittanut Tik-Tok, 01.11.2019 at 20:02

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 01.11.2019 at 13:26

Your anti-semitic/racist views are very clear to all, as I've stated several times. Anyways, I won't bother engaging with someone who is incapable of seeing other human beings as equal. Have fun debating HDrakon or whoever else will bother.

I respect your effort in creating arguments that are well thought out (even if hateful), but that effort should probably be redirected into doing something productive in your real life, instead of attacking fellow human beings just for being a different race or religion.

Oh really? That's an odd thing for you to say. I think your clear rampant hypocrisy and hatred deserves its own thread. I have over 1300 posts for your too look through and not once have I said anything hateful or violent. It's up to you to prove it. Critique, observation and philosophy are not hateful, but you have said many, many hateful, gleeful and supremacist statements for years, mostly directed at any kind of European nativism.

Words are subjective you racist clown. According to a progressive interpretation of the English language, you're a nazi fuck hellbent on fucking over the jews, the blacks, and minorities of all stripes, colors, and creeds. Words don't mean what they meant at the time they were written, anyone who suggests that is a racist fuck.

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 01.11.2019 at 13:28

The context of that was that Tirpitz (the individual) alone does not have the right to determine the fate of the country, though of course he deserves a voice. It's the citizens as a whole who have the right to determine, and that determination should be based on what is best for the country, not based on hatred for different races. You really like to spend hours and hours over arguments on a browser game, don't you?

Well, the NATION of GERMANY defines itself by ancestry. So, you don't need to take it from me, you can take it from Wikipedia:
Germans (German: Deutsche) are a Germanic ethnic group native to Central Europe,[25][26][27][28] who share a common German ancestry, culture and history. German is the shared mother tongue of a substantial majority of ethnic Germans.

And NO, this still has nothing to do with hatred, you just see what you want to see, reality doesn't bother you.

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 02.11.2019 at 06:23

Well, the NATION of GERMANY defines itself by ancestry. So, you don't need to take it from me, you can take it from Wikipedia:
Germans (German: Deutsche) are a Germanic ethnic group native to Central Europe,[25][26][27][28] who share a common German ancestry, culture and history. German is the shared mother tongue of a substantial majority of ethnic Germans.

And NO, this still has nothing to do with hatred, you just see what you want to see, reality doesn't bother you.

I suppose Germany is indeed that lol. I'm not against ethnic groups wanting a homeland; that's literally how every country in the world was eventually formed. I'm just against race being used as a justification as a homeland, which sometimes is the case (there are a few thousand idiotic white nationalists in the US). But if you're using ethnicity as a justification, I agree that it is 100% legitimate; every country in the world has some legitimate form of that (America and some other countries settled mostly after 1700/1800 may be an exception)

Germany has every right to be the homeland of German people (people who speak the German language and have German ethnicity). I'm just curious what your stance against immigration is for, granted the immigration is high skilled and relatively limited? I agree that the refugee crisis has been a burden on Germany, but why restrict people who are high skilled, educated, and willing to assimilate? Ofc I don't care about Syrians lmao. But what about genius Chinese doctors and grad students, who would make a disproportionate contribution to the German economy and also be willing to assimilate? Usually the highly-educated of any country are willing to assimilate and have good values overall.

Kirjoittanut Player 999, 04.11.2019 at 20:29

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 02.11.2019 at 06:23

Well, the NATION of GERMANY defines itself by ancestry. So, you don't need to take it from me, you can take it from Wikipedia:
Germans (German: Deutsche) are a Germanic ethnic group native to Central Europe,[25][26][27][28] who share a common German ancestry, culture and history. German is the shared mother tongue of a substantial majority of ethnic Germans.

And NO, this still has nothing to do with hatred, you just see what you want to see, reality doesn't bother you.

I suppose Germany is indeed that lol. I'm not against ethnic groups wanting a homeland; that's literally how every country in the world was eventually formed. I'm just against race being used as a justification as a homeland, which sometimes is the case (there are a few thousand idiotic white nationalists in the US). But if you're using ethnicity as a justification, I agree that it is 100% legitimate; every country in the world has some legitimate form of that (America and some other countries settled mostly after 1700/1800 may be an exception)

Germany has every right to be the homeland of German people (people who speak the German language and have German ethnicity). I'm just curious what your stance against immigration is for, granted the immigration is high skilled and relatively limited? I agree that the refugee crisis has been a burden on Germany, but why restrict people who are high skilled, educated, and willing to assimilate? Ofc I don't care about Syrians lmao. But what about genius Chinese doctors and grad students, who would make a disproportionate contribution to the German economy and also be willing to assimilate? Usually the highly-educated of any country are willing to assimilate and have good values overall.

Most immigrants will say they are willing to assimilate but very few actually are. I want the immigration to be so low, that the people coming here have to assimilate, because they are too few to form seperate communities. That's why I said 5000, because 5000*80=400000 which means that whatever the age of the migrants is, there will never be a population of more than 400 000 migrants in the country, so you will never get a substantial minority that can form it's own society. These immigrants would be forced to marry into the German population, and I would probably choose those migrants to be 50% of the highest IQ, lowest in dark triads, high in agreeableness and conscientiousness males and females, so you get a balanced gender ratio. One could even claim, that this model for immigration essentially is positive eugenics. Besides it, one could allow more ancestrally closer people to immigrate. For example Frenchmen and Poles, simply because they wont alter the ancestry composition and culture as much.

"Skilled" doesn't mean shit btw, most degrees are worthless nowadays.
I wouldn't want millions of people with worthless degrees, or even millions of high IQ people, because the economy in itself isn't important, what matters to me are my people.

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 05.11.2019 at 06:49

Most immigrants will say they are willing to assimilate but very few actually are. I want the immigration to be so low, that the people coming here have to assimilate, because they are too few to form seperate communities. That's why I said 5000, because 5000*80=400000 which means that whatever the age of the migrants is, there will never be a population of more than 400 000 migrants in the country, so you will never get a substantial minority that can form it's own society. These immigrants would be forced to marry into the German population, and I would probably choose those migrants to be 50% of the highest IQ, lowest in dark triads, high in agreeableness and conscientiousness males and females, so you get a balanced gender ratio. One could even claim, that this model for immigration essentially is positive eugenics. Besides it, one could allow more ancestrally closer people to immigrate. For example Frenchmen and Poles, simply because they wont alter the ancestry composition and culture as much.

Yeah I agree that immigrants should assimiliate and there should not be siloed societies. All immigrants to a country can follow whichever culture they want, of course, but must follow the country's civic values and laws. I guess there is simply a difference between the American and German mindsets towards immigration. Over here, America was built by immigration and immigrants have for the most part assimilated; people can of course follow whichever culture they like (you can see that Irish/Polish/German/Hispanic/Asian populations for example follow their customs/religions freely), but they must follow American civic values. I agree with you that immigrants to Germany must follow German laws and civic values, or else German society would be weakened.

Because the vast amount of immigrants here tend to assimilate (and because 99.7% of current American citizens have also had immigrant ancestors from after the arrival of the Mayflower), America is relatively tolerant of immigration. America's H1b and F1 programs tend to select for immigrants skilled in needed industries (there of course are a few issues with H1b, but as a whole it has been an overwhelming positive for America). And H1b/F1 people aren't just top 50% of IQ; they are the top 10%, top 5%, and even top 1% of IQ. Silicon Valley companies and the US education system would be severely weakened without foreign talent; China/India especially have massive amounts of top talent that are a great benefit to the US economy.

I admit that illegal immigration from Mexico/Latin America, which is mostly low-skilled, is causing depressed wages for the American working class though. That's why there is a push-back from the American right-wing to severely reduce illegal immigration.

America is a country based on immigration, and I guess Germany may be different; your ancestors may have lived in Germany for hundreds or thousands of years, but Americans' ancestors on average have only been here for 50-200 years. So I acknowledge difference viewpoints towards immigration between me and you. Perhaps our viewpoints are based on what has worked in our respective countries. Maybe I'd be anti-immigration if I was born as a German. I hope Germany is able to weather the refugee crisis and low birthrates successfully.

Kirjoittanut U-94, 05.11.2019 at 17:34

America is a country of European immigrants

Little nitpick.