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Lähettänyt Htin, 06.05.2016 - 16:16
I think the elo culmination is growing. I find people with higher elo than before especially mecoy and Prometheus. I notice Clovis tend to be 200 elo more than me at the highest.
08.05.2016 - 02:47
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 07.05.2016 at 18:07

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 07.05.2016 at 17:39

Just want to let it clear that I didn't tried to escape from the punishment. I can see how elo gambles affects the competitions now (I admit that,before , I didn't cared enough since I though that the medals were a joke). I believe that you shouldn't be punished for unwritten rules, as it's rather the rules's fault for adopting that format and not being complete enough. Either way:

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 15.05.2015 at 18:16

But, if mods will "suddenly" start to implement this rule, then why starting now? What happened with the cases that were done in the past? I believe Soldier shouldn't be the only one punished. There are many others players who had done this before (me include). We should be punished too.



lol do you want to be punished? soldier didnt report you over a year ago when you apparently were farming. Him and el are only complaining now a year after the fact so they can whine about how biased the mods were towards them when they fully deserved what they got. I don't see the point so long after. It is not like you reoffended.

Once my lightshot is working again ill post the discussion on el's punishment since he was so convinced there was personal bias on my part involved and he is innocent.(fun fact i wasnt even a mod at the time of this punishment.)

what are you mumbling ? i was 100% guilty and i never wanted clovis to get punished, told him to shut up at that time. it's that i got much more elo removed than i gained and got seasonal nullified even though i was on the 1st spot for 2 months and just wanted to farm clovis to friendly humiliate him not like i wasn't getting my 1st place or smthing like that anyways that's in the past and idc anymore
the accent was on el's case.
you know el and unknown gamer didn't gamble elo they played all games but suddenly in the following days unknown gamer published his hacking guide, he just wanted to fuck up atwar, and you removed his elo for the same reason you removed mine which is obviously false and biased.

and all this thing started by your words *elo farming still continues becuz nobody got punished after soldier and el* and we don't see them get punished nowadays (i am not talking about past elo farmers such as innate but the current ones) that's what makes us think that it was personal agenda.
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08.05.2016 - 06:08
Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 02:47

(i am not talking about past elo farmers such as innate but the current ones)

Who does still gamble elo? Report them!

P.S: A surprise is coming at the end of the season!
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08.05.2016 - 06:12
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Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 08.05.2016 at 06:08

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 02:47

(i am not talking about past elo farmers such as innate but the current ones)

Who does still gamble elo? Report them!

P.S: A surprise is coming at the end of the season!

well laochra himself said that ppl still farm elo becuz nobody got punished after us, he knows himself
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08.05.2016 - 06:32
Kirjoittanut Azula., 07.05.2016 at 05:46

Indeed your personal stuff doens't affect punishment anymore it so seems.


Kirjoittanut Azula., 07.05.2016 at 12:04

Nice lie that is why they restored my duel list etc right,, ow you forgot that was couse a lot of the mods didnt agree and somone (prob you) made amok or ivan do it withoud consults, GG lao.


Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 02:47

you know el and unknown gamer didn't gamble elo they played all games but suddenly in the following days unknown gamer published his hacking guide, he just wanted to fuck up atwar, and you removed his elo for the same reason you removed mine which is obviously false and biased.


And what actually happened.









The only conclusion we can draw from all this is that el was farming elo and didnt give a shit or he was incredibly naive, to the point where you would have to question if there is a brain inside his head at all. We know hes no idiot so it is obvious what happened. He deserved his punishment and you both should stop lying before you make yourselves look worse. Also note how there is not a laochra post in sight, why?

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08.05.2016 - 06:41
Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 08.05.2016 at 06:08

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 02:47

(i am not talking about past elo farmers such as innate but the current ones)

Who does still gamble elo? Report them!



YOU AND I MADE GAMBLE IN 30 ELO , LIKE A WEEK AGO
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08.05.2016 - 06:50
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 06:32

The only conclusion we can draw from all this is that el was farming elo and didnt give a shit or he was incredibly naive, to the point where you would have to question if there is a brain inside his head at all. We know hes no idiot so it is obvious what happened. He deserved his punishment and you both should stop lying before you make yourselves look worse. Also note how there is not a laochra post in sight, why?

naive ? oh you think ppl actually think when dueling whether is your opponent serious or not ? or is player thinking to win only and seeking new ways for that. i knew the talk would come to this topic again so few months ago i made little test, i played many duels like 40 and let my opponents to win all of them each one thought they deserved that win, but than i played some of them and won instantly and they thought i was lucky *tb-ing* they didn't even notice i wasn't tb-ing them previous games so yes ppl are naive . you are free to ban me for giving out elo/making test because i was aware of that. but el is innocent becaue he wasn't aware like the ppl weren't in these pics, know that or else half of aw is guilty for being *naive*



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08.05.2016 - 06:57
Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 06:50



The difference between what you just did and el did is obvious to any reasonable person.
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08.05.2016 - 06:59
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 06:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 06:50



The difference between what you just did and el did is obvious to any reasonable person.

no difference each person got dueled several times they were thinking they were better players than me in your words *they were naive enough not to notice i was giving them out elo* i have perfectly explained that.
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08.05.2016 - 07:06
Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 06:59

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 06:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 06:50



The difference between what you just did and el did is obvious to any reasonable person.

no difference each person got dueled several times they were thinking they were better players than me in your words *they were naive enough not to notice i was giving them out elo* i have perfectly explained that.


el dueled ug 40 times, the most duels you have vs a player is 6 against prom. And your elo distribution didnt affect the rankings in any significant way. So if prom is naive el must be an extreme case. Jeez ask him if he wants to buy some magic beans, i'm selling.
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08.05.2016 - 07:08
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 07:06

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 06:59

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 06:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 06:50



The difference between what you just did and el did is obvious to any reasonable person.

no difference each person got dueled several times they were thinking they were better players than me in your words *they were naive enough not to notice i was giving them out elo* i have perfectly explained that.


el dueled ug 40 times, the most duels you have vs a player is 6 against prom. And your elo distribution didnt affect the rankings in any significant way. So if prom is naive el must be an extreme case. Jeez ask him if he wants to buy some magic beans, i'm selling.

your argument is just hillarious people shouldn't get punished if they aren't aware of what's happening. and your sarcasm ability leaves me speechless.
see that's why i think you have had private reasons against el.
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08.05.2016 - 07:24
Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 07:08

your argument is just hillarious people shouldn't get punished if they aren't aware of what's happening. and your sarcasm ability leaves me speechless.
see that's why i think you have had private reasons against el.


If you looked at the screenshots you would have realised that i wasnt made a mod until 3 weeks after the whole situation with you and el. So i had nothing to do with your punishment. I guess meester columna pulse acqui desu meester ivan all hate on poor old el. Even his friend and clanmate cthulhu agreed it was shady. Who do you trolls think you're kidding.
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08.05.2016 - 07:30
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 07:24

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 07:08

your argument is just hillarious people shouldn't get punished if they aren't aware of what's happening. and your sarcasm ability leaves me speechless.
see that's why i think you have had private reasons against el.


If you looked at the screenshots you would have realised that i wasnt made a mod until 3 weeks after the whole situation with you and el. So i had nothing to do with your punishment. I guess meester columna pulse acqui desu meester ivan all hate on poor old el. Even his friend and clanmate cthulhu agreed it was shady. Who do you trolls think you're kidding.

for reporting only 2 certain players and not caring enough to judge others while being aware of others guilt and also when having proof in front of your eyes and still being stubborn, makes us think that you have had your private reasons.
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08.05.2016 - 08:52
Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 07:30

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 07:24

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 07:08

your argument is just hillarious people shouldn't get punished if they aren't aware of what's happening. and your sarcasm ability leaves me speechless.
see that's why i think you have had private reasons against el.


If you looked at the screenshots you would have realised that i wasnt made a mod until 3 weeks after the whole situation with you and el. So i had nothing to do with your punishment. I guess meester columna pulse acqui desu meester ivan all hate on poor old el. Even his friend and clanmate cthulhu agreed it was shady. Who do you trolls think you're kidding.

for reporting only 2 certain players and not caring enough to judge others while being aware of others guilt and also when having proof in front of your eyes and still being stubborn, makes us think that you have had your private reasons.


I've opened a thread few weeks ago about Innate's and Dragon's ELO legitimately, since they achieved ELO peaks in the atWar hall of fame based on gambles (Draconi have #7 highest recorded peak at the moment, Innate one(if added) would'be just below bluecher's). Although it was just meant for the atWar hall of fame, Ivan moved the thread some weeks ago to mod forum, so I guess that something bigger than disqualifying their records is going to happen.

My concern is that just 2 days after Ivan moved the thread I had a fight with Dragon about it. He rejected to duel me because "I made a whole thread against him". He showed me SS of his case in my thread, and also said that he wouldn't be harmed because the mods agreed to not punish the old gambles incidents.

I don't know how he got that screenshot, or if what he say is true (mods won't punish him). I don't even know what is his source. My though atm are that he knows hdrakon's exploit to access to mod forums or got the screenshot while the thread was in the supporters forums from someone there. I once though about the SM monopoly thing and even messaged one of them, but apart of having no base I doubt that Innate have any link with them.

Most likely he lied, but I don't know.

Anyway, mods will have to respond when the season ends (May 31) so we can see what to do with Matthew and Flamma. When that happens I'll try to ask to see what will be done with Innate/Dragon peaks.
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08.05.2016 - 13:22
Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 06:32

Kirjoittanut Azula., 07.05.2016 at 05:46

Indeed your personal stuff doens't affect punishment anymore it so seems.


Kirjoittanut Azula., 07.05.2016 at 12:04

Nice lie that is why they restored my duel list etc right,, ow you forgot that was couse a lot of the mods didnt agree and somone (prob you) made amok or ivan do it withoud consults, GG lao.


Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 02:47

you know el and unknown gamer didn't gamble elo they played all games but suddenly in the following days unknown gamer published his hacking guide, he just wanted to fuck up atwar, and you removed his elo for the same reason you removed mine which is obviously false and biased.


And what actually happened.









The only conclusion we can draw from all this is that el was farming elo and didnt give a shit or he was incredibly naive, to the point where you would have to question if there is a brain inside his head at all. We know hes no idiot so it is obvious what happened. He deserved his punishment and you both should stop lying before you make yourselves look worse. Also note how there is not a laochra post in sight, why?




I remember the duels vs unkown gamer and thinking it was weird at the time, I even asked El what was going on, he was just a bit naive. He didnt "farm" the guy on purpose, this is the same guy that gor to r13 in several hours via a hack. El was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, meanwhile Soldier was punished for gambling with clovis and clovis wasnt punished.... no logic
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08.05.2016 - 14:20
Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 08.05.2016 at 08:52

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 07:30

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 08.05.2016 at 07:24

Kirjoittanut Guest, 08.05.2016 at 07:08

your argument is just hillarious people shouldn't get punished if they aren't aware of what's happening. and your sarcasm ability leaves me speechless.
see that's why i think you have had private reasons against el.


If you looked at the screenshots you would have realised that i wasnt made a mod until 3 weeks after the whole situation with you and el. So i had nothing to do with your punishment. I guess meester columna pulse acqui desu meester ivan all hate on poor old el. Even his friend and clanmate cthulhu agreed it was shady. Who do you trolls think you're kidding.

for reporting only 2 certain players and not caring enough to judge others while being aware of others guilt and also when having proof in front of your eyes and still being stubborn, makes us think that you have had your private reasons.


I've opened a thread few weeks ago about Innate's and Dragon's ELO legitimately, since they achieved ELO peaks in the atWar hall of fame based on gambles (Draconi have #7 highest recorded peak at the moment, Innate one(if added) would'be just below bluecher's). Although it was just meant for the atWar hall of fame, Ivan moved the thread some weeks ago to mod forum, so I guess that something bigger than disqualifying their records is going to happen.

My concern is that just 2 days after Ivan moved the thread I had a fight with Dragon about it. He rejected to duel me because "I made a whole thread against him". He showed me SS of his case in my thread, and also said that he wouldn't be harmed because the mods agreed to not punish the old gambles incidents.

I don't know how he got that screenshot, or if what he say is true (mods won't punish him). I don't even know what is his source. My though atm are that he knows hdrakon's exploit to access to mod forums or got the screenshot while the thread was in the supporters forums from someone there. I once though about the SM monopoly thing and even messaged one of them, but apart of having no base I doubt that Innate have any link with them.

Most likely he lied, but I don't know.

Anyway, mods will have to respond when the season ends (May 31) so we can see what to do with Matthew and Flamma. When that happens I'll try to ask to see what will be done with Innate/Dragon peaks.

Matthew case is closed he will never duel again...
Flamma is a wider topic about low ranks/alts dueling in beginner room and getting in same leaderboard as R10+
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09.05.2016 - 00:54
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Kirjoittanut Kraigg, 08.05.2016 at 14:20

Matthew case is closed he will never duel again...
Flamma is a wider topic about low ranks/alts dueling in beginner room and getting in same leaderboard as R10+


Flamma has to be removed as he is an alt and rejecting duels with higher ranks even on no upgrades settings.
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09.05.2016 - 02:47
Kirjoittanut Guest, 09.05.2016 at 00:54

Kirjoittanut Kraigg, 08.05.2016 at 14:20

Matthew case is closed he will never duel again...
Flamma is a wider topic about low ranks/alts dueling in beginner room and getting in same leaderboard as R10+


Flamma has to be removed as he is an alt and rejecting duels with higher ranks even on no upgrades settings.


I agree, but let's imagine he is not an alt (which I know he is), the issue is a low can duel only in beginner room until r7 and get very good seasonnal elo, while not being part of the actual duel competition, which is why I support Sun Tzu proposal to make 2 divisions
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09.05.2016 - 06:38
Kirjoittanut Kraigg, 09.05.2016 at 02:47

Kirjoittanut Guest, 09.05.2016 at 00:54

Kirjoittanut Kraigg, 08.05.2016 at 14:20

Matthew case is closed he will never duel again...
Flamma is a wider topic about low ranks/alts dueling in beginner room and getting in same leaderboard as R10+


Flamma has to be removed as he is an alt and rejecting duels with higher ranks even on no upgrades settings.


I agree, but let's imagine he is not an alt (which I know he is), the issue is a low can duel only in beginner room until r7 and get very good seasonnal elo, while not being part of the actual duel competition, which is why I support Sun Tzu proposal to make 2 divisions


i was talking to ivan about a rank limit for dueling, that would at least lower the pool of victims players like flamma can take advantage of.
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09.05.2016 - 08:15
I was talking to ivan about a rank limit for dueling, that would at least lower the pool of victims players like flamma can take advantage of.

What kind of rank limit are you thinking of? I like this idea.
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09.05.2016 - 08:37
Kirjoittanut Prometheus, 09.05.2016 at 08:15

I was talking to ivan about a rank limit for dueling, that would at least lower the pool of victims players like flamma can take advantage of.

What kind of rank limit are you thinking of? I like this idea.


I would be quite drastic actually, remove the ability to duel (ıe both creatıng and joınıng duels) untıl rank5

I would as well (or alternatively) remove the abiliy to 1) make duels in begınner room 2) put rank lımıt to duels (if low rank want to duel he can select disable upgrades)
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09.05.2016 - 13:18
Kirjoittanut Goblin, 09.05.2016 at 13:12

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 07.05.2016 at 15:08

Obviously nobody reported him.

Clovis made a topic himself back then... taunting the mods to punish him.


Say it already, if what you want is me to get punished then I'll go and ask for it again. But you seriously gotta stop going from thread to thread to make me look like the faulty one.

I can't stand rancorous people, jeez...
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09.05.2016 - 15:49
Kirjoittanut Goblin, 09.05.2016 at 14:06

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 09.05.2016 at 13:18

Say it already, if what you want is me to get punished then I'll go and ask for it again. But you seriously gotta stop going from thread to thread to make me look like the faulty one.

I can't stand rancorous people, jeez...

i gain nothing from that... i want admittance of guilts, not late punishments


I've admit that what I did was wrong in the past and even now. But it seems like this is not enough for you.
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09.05.2016 - 16:52
Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 09.05.2016 at 15:49

I've admitted that what I did was wrong in the past and even now. But it seems like this is not enough for you.

Admittance is worth nothing after commiting crimes! We want blood! Your blood!
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10.05.2016 - 20:38
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Topkek Of course it was all a mod conspiracy, the whole staff had personal issues with you two players, that makes just perfect sense. Amazing how even years later people won't just admit they fucked up and accept their punishments. At least Clovis admits he was wrong.
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12.05.2016 - 06:30
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Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 10.05.2016 at 20:38

Topkek Of course it was all a mod conspiracy, the whole staff had personal issues with you two players, that makes just perfect sense. Amazing how even years later people won't just admit they fucked up and accept their punishments. At least Clovis admits he was wrong.

you should've read at least little bit of our posts i think.
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12.05.2016 - 06:39
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Kirjoittanut Guest, 12.05.2016 at 06:30

you should've read at least little bit of our posts i think.



You should've read mine

Kirjoittanut Acquiesce, 10.05.2016 at 20:38

and accept their punishments
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12.05.2016 - 17:12
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Kirjoittanut Goblin, 12.05.2016 at 09:20

where is the part where mods admit their mistake...


What mistake? So Clovis didn't get punished. It's not the duty of the mods to catch every offender of every rule, nor is it possible. This is the same shit people cry when they abuse and get muted. "But what about him!"
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14.05.2016 - 20:13
So don't get me wrong, but you are actually having a discussion about boring things happened to boring people a long time ago? How boring.
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Kirjoittanut Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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15.05.2016 - 04:30
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Kirjoittanut Waffel, 14.05.2016 at 20:13

So don't get me wrong, but you are actually having a discussion about boring things happened to boring people a long time ago? How boring.


And we have a boring guy commenting it. How boringful.
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