You are not welcome in EUROPE

Kirjoittanut The Tactician, 03.09.2015 at 14:11

I know that, but most of you still listen to them or their outlets. I agree that some parts of the middle east has stopped evolving, I'm in one. How is that Islam's fault though? Islam encourages knowledge and evolving. It's said that God created us for two reasons: to worship him and to 'build' or 'construct' the earth. idk the exact translation but you get what I mean. Therefore its going against Islam to not evolve. Which ties back again to Muslims who follow shari'aa dutifully and the ones who oh-so disgustingly seek personal gain. I can tell you its because of these people Egypt isn't growing as a nation. We were prospering in the times of monarchy and before, and then came Gamal Abd ElNasser who lost us the war against Israel, and lost us the strong economy we had. When Hosny Mubarak came (the prez who got protested out of office in 25th of january revolution) he stole so much from Egypt and blocked so much progression that we declined so much as a country. It wasn't bad in his time, with some establishments covering up his theft, but when he stepped out of office it got even worse with Morsi the Muslim Brotherhood president who is one of those guys using Islam to serve his agenda. Egypt's example is in so many country because some despicable people ended up on the top of the food chain. Anyway, moral of the story, its not Islam's fault. Also, may I know why you don't like interacting with Muslims? I'm almost fully sure they wouldn't be followed shari'aa dutifully.

Because this religion is keeping you and your people prisoners. You said yourself how importand to you is tradition and customs. Until that mentality is broken your people will never be able to think for themselves. I dont want to make a long post, the main word here is secularism. Until this word is introduced to muslims there is no way forward. Because the teachings of Islam have been integrated in your culture, your laws, your ethics, your morals, the way you think. Can a journalist or a politician openly express himself in Muslim countries without threat of jail and death? Can a muslim openly convert to Christianity without threat for his life? Can an artist make satire of religion without becoming headless? Can a kid be gay without being tortured and killed? Can a female enjoy the same rights and privileges as a male? Can muslims in Western countries stop chasing with axes and killing in the streets, journalists who made satire of their religion? Until these and other questions like these are answered with a yes, i will keep fighting islam. Until i see another (only one so far) muslim get a nobel prize award in sciences or muslims hit the streets to protest for better education and not to hang another homo, i will keep fighting islam. until i stop seeing a grown ass man dropping to his fucking knees 5 times a day, bowing and praying to someone that someone mentioned in an old book..you get my point. I want to see your people the "peacefull" muslims break free of the shackles, start being tolerant towards your own people and then to others, progress and thrive. i really wish it. until then i dont trust, sorry.

edit: just so you know, one of my best real life buds is palestinian. he has integrated perfectly and is very succesfull and happy here. Guess what..he is not muslim. we judge together christians and muslims alike.

Kirjoittanut The Tactician, 03.09.2015 at 13:13

Its funny reading the ''evil Muslims'' comments and people think we're barbaric terrorists set out to destroy westerners. Islam is a religion of peace and harmony and whoever is terrorizing someone (worse is they take the name of Islam) is contradicting Islam. Saying all Muslims are bad is like saying all westerners are bad for colonizing America hundreds of years ago.

*prepare for false evidence as to why all Muslims are bad*

I studied theology and i've read Quran, so you cant call me anti-islam, and therefore let me just say that Quran says to spread peace and support humanian aid, give charity, but also encourage Muslims to fight non-Muslims and spread religion. That part can be considered violent.


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing
but if they desist, then Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun "

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing: But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit, except those who are disabled, and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit . Unto each, Allah has promised good, but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit by a huge reward "

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna and religion should be only for Allah"

A degenerated Anarchist with progressive ideas vs an anti-western muslim vs a putin-bot
plz keep fighting, spare no one.

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 03.09.2015 at 14:12

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 13:26

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 13:23

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 12:57

Lets see something,for 500 years,hungarians,croats,austrians,poles,serbs,russians,...... and many other balkan and eastern europan nations fought against muslim invasion of europe,hundreds of thousands of dead for what? so that millions of muslims can pour into europe with out consent

you put poles, austrians and hungarians as defenders against muslims and you dont put greeks. right. go back to school.

countries that got conquered and remained that way for.....what,500 years? are counted as "others"

They still deserve recognition, Greeks fought bravely against the muslim invaders just like austrians, germans, poles, and every other race that you mentioned did, if they were so far away from the turks like the others are then they would not have been conquered

and i mentioned them,under "others",should i mention every freaking nation that fought them?

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 12:59

Btw, my views are controversial and non-mainstream... how the fuck am i a drone of the media? if anything, you are the drone as you share the same views that the media spams on TV and radio everyday.

i will argue that. not really, maybe not a drone of the media but certainly a drone of Tik tok. Seriously the resemblance in your line of thought and writing is ridiculous.. do you have a manifesto in his clan forum that you all borrow from it or something lol. I see the same scaremongering propaganda, really transparent if you ask me. " Oh the big black men are coming they take our jerbs, raping our females and doing aqll our crime, oh the big brown muslims coming they conquer all europe, they isis" so "LETS ALL VOTE FOR NATIONAL SOCIALISTS, THEY GONNA SAVE US FROM DESTRUCTION. BECOME A FASCIST NOW OTHERWISE EUROPE WILL BE CONQUERED"

gtfo tunder. this kind of reasoning is childish and only worked during specific circumstances with nazi germany, people aint falling for it again. isis and alqaida are made up and ALLOWED to live. Theres no muslim master plan for europe conquest, theres just muslim opressors, muslim citizens who let themselves be opressed and opress others and Usa playing the master pupeteer.

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 14:50

A degenerated Anarchist with progressive ideas vs an anti-western muslim vs a putin-bot
plz keep fighting, spare no one.

not even sparing you <3

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 14:34

Kirjoittanut The Tactician, 03.09.2015 at 14:11

I know that, but most of you still listen to them or their outlets. I agree that some parts of the middle east has stopped evolving, I'm in one. How is that Islam's fault though? Islam encourages knowledge and evolving. It's said that God created us for two reasons: to worship him and to 'build' or 'construct' the earth. idk the exact translation but you get what I mean. Therefore its going against Islam to not evolve. Which ties back again to Muslims who follow shari'aa dutifully and the ones who oh-so disgustingly seek personal gain. I can tell you its because of these people Egypt isn't growing as a nation. We were prospering in the times of monarchy and before, and then came Gamal Abd ElNasser who lost us the war against Israel, and lost us the strong economy we had. When Hosny Mubarak came (the prez who got protested out of office in 25th of january revolution) he stole so much from Egypt and blocked so much progression that we declined so much as a country. It wasn't bad in his time, with some establishments covering up his theft, but when he stepped out of office it got even worse with Morsi the Muslim Brotherhood president who is one of those guys using Islam to serve his agenda. Egypt's example is in so many country because some despicable people ended up on the top of the food chain. Anyway, moral of the story, its not Islam's fault. Also, may I know why you don't like interacting with Muslims? I'm almost fully sure they wouldn't be followed shari'aa dutifully.

Because this religion is keeping you and your people prisoners. You said yourself how importand to you is tradition and customs. Until that mentality is broken your people will never be able to think for themselves. I dont want to make a long post, the main word here is secularism. Until this word is introduced to muslims there is no way forward. Because the teachings of Islam have been integrated in your culture, your laws, your ethics, your morals, the way you think. Can a journalist or a politician openly express himself in Muslim countries without threat of jail and death? Can a muslim openly convert to Christianity without threat for his life? Can an artist make satire of religion without becoming headless? Can a kid be gay without being tortured and killed? Can a female enjoy the same rights and privileges as a male? Can muslims in Western countries stop chasing with axes and killing in the streets, journalists who made satire of their religion? Until these and other questions like these are answered with a yes, i will keep fighting islam. Until i see another (only one so far) muslim get a nobel prize award in sciences or muslims hit the streets to protest for better education and not to hang another homo, i will keep fighting islam. until i stop seeing a grown ass man dropping to his fucking knees 5 times a day, bowing and praying to someone that someone mentioned in an old book..you get my point. I want to see your people the "peacefull" muslims break free of the shackles, start being tolerant towards your own people and then to others, progress and thrive. i really wish it. until then i dont trust, sorry.

Some of your questions is a skewed perspective, some of your questions is already a yes, some of your questions are represented by Muslims who don't follow Islam dutifully, and some of your questions are based on your views. Again, They're not following Shar'iaa dutifully. @first Q: That's because the leaders aren't fair and don't follow Islam correctly, and now its starting to change. People say whatever they want on the media. @2nd Q: Yes. Of course people concerned about him will advise him not to but any threat to life is absurd. I don't know how it is in your country. @3rd Q: Extremists don't represent Islam. After all my posts how don't you understand that yet?@ 4th Q: Same answer as 3. @5th Q: Yes. Khadija Mohamed's wife controlled many state affairs and was controlling a big part of their trade. Again its about the people not following Islam correctly. @6th Q: idk how it is in western countries, but again people not interpreting Islam correctly. There are a lot of bright and promising Muslims making breakthrough's in their respective fields, and they aren't given enough recognition by their unfair leaders. The message I want to get through to you is that it's not Islam's fault but people's way of taking it to an extreme level or misinterpreting it. Do you understand that?

Bowing and dropping to our knees is how we pray to God. Its how we show that we are merely human beings in a huge universe. Its humbling, and it makes all humans equal. Rich or poor, man or woman, black or white, anything, we all bow down and get on our knees. If that's not equality then I don't know what it.

I get if you don't get it, perspective is key, but I hope your position has changed at least a little.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 14:56

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 03.09.2015 at 14:12

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 13:26

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 13:23

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 12:57

Lets see something,for 500 years,hungarians,croats,austrians,poles,serbs,russians,...... and many other balkan and eastern europan nations fought against muslim invasion of europe,hundreds of thousands of dead for what? so that millions of muslims can pour into europe with out consent

you put poles, austrians and hungarians as defenders against muslims and you dont put greeks. right. go back to school.

countries that got conquered and remained that way for.....what,500 years? are counted as "others"

They still deserve recognition, Greeks fought bravely against the muslim invaders just like austrians, germans, poles, and every other race that you mentioned did, if they were so far away from the turks like the others are then they would not have been conquered

and i mentioned them,under "others",should i mention every freaking nation that fought them?

talking about defending muslim invasion of europe and not mentioning greece while mentioning poland (dafuq) is an insult to the concept of history and the human species as a whole. Greece literally lost everything, just so you can talk english now and say goodnight to your jesus. you are welcome.

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 15:03

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 14:56

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 03.09.2015 at 14:12

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 13:26

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 13:23

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 12:57

Lets see something,for 500 years,hungarians,croats,austrians,poles,serbs,russians,...... and many other balkan and eastern europan nations fought against muslim invasion of europe,hundreds of thousands of dead for what? so that millions of muslims can pour into europe with out consent

you put poles, austrians and hungarians as defenders against muslims and you dont put greeks. right. go back to school.

countries that got conquered and remained that way for.....what,500 years? are counted as "others"

They still deserve recognition, Greeks fought bravely against the muslim invaders just like austrians, germans, poles, and every other race that you mentioned did, if they were so far away from the turks like the others are then they would not have been conquered

and i mentioned them,under "others",should i mention every freaking nation that fought them?

talking about defending muslim invasion of europe and not mentioning greece while mentioning poland (dafuq) is an insult to the concept of history and the human species as a whole. Greece literally lost everything, just so you can talk english now and say goodnight to your jesus. you are welcome.

read on on siege on vienna and see what poland did,and what did greeks exactly do? most of their achivemants were in 19th century and by then otto was as dangerous as a kitten on ice

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:06

read on on siege on vienna and see what poland did,and what did greeks exactly do? most of their achivemants were in 19th century and by then otto was as dangerous as a kitten on ice

i know better than you what happened in vienna. and this game being historical in nature almost all of us here know a little bit of history, while you just proved with this joke of a sentence, you know shit. im not gonna chew-feed you 500 years of history, theres the internet, go read for fuck shake, before you make ignorant statements like the above.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:06

read on on siege on vienna and see what poland did,and what did greeks exactly do? most of their achivemants were in 19th century and by then otto was as dangerous as a kitten on ice

excuse me?
do you forget about the Greek empire? aka the byzantine empire? aka the east roman empire?

the byzantine empire prevented the Saracens from destroying Europe, for real, the only reason the karlings were not put to the sword is because the Byzantines foiled most if not all of the saracen invasions.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 14:56

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 03.09.2015 at 14:12

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 13:26

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 13:23

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 12:57

Lets see something,for 500 years,hungarians,croats,austrians,poles,serbs,russians,...... and many other balkan and eastern europan nations fought against muslim invasion of europe,hundreds of thousands of dead for what? so that millions of muslims can pour into europe with out consent

you put poles, austrians and hungarians as defenders against muslims and you dont put greeks. right. go back to school.

countries that got conquered and remained that way for.....what,500 years? are counted as "others"

They still deserve recognition, Greeks fought bravely against the muslim invaders just like austrians, germans, poles, and every other race that you mentioned did, if they were so far away from the turks like the others are then they would not have been conquered

and i mentioned them,under "others",should i mention every freaking nation that fought them?

If you mention the Austrians who consistently got their ass kicked by the Turks, you should probably mention the fucking greeks

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 15:12

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:06

read on on siege on vienna and see what poland did,and what did greeks exactly do? most of their achivemants were in 19th century and by then otto was as dangerous as a kitten on ice

i know better than you what happened in vienna. and this game being historical in nature almost all of us here know a little bit of history, while you just proved with this joke of a sentence, you know shit. im not gonna chew-feed you 500 years of history, theres the internet, go read for fuck shake, before you make ignorant statements like the above.

and what did your little rant prove? only 1 think,you have huge inferiority complex that kicked in the second you saw greece wasnt on the list.
once you learn to cope with those mental health issues then we can discuss

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 03.09.2015 at 15:15

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 14:56

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 03.09.2015 at 14:12

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 13:26

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 13:23

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 12:57

Lets see something,for 500 years,hungarians,croats,austrians,poles,serbs,russians,...... and many other balkan and eastern europan nations fought against muslim invasion of europe,hundreds of thousands of dead for what? so that millions of muslims can pour into europe with out consent

you put poles, austrians and hungarians as defenders against muslims and you dont put greeks. right. go back to school.

countries that got conquered and remained that way for.....what,500 years? are counted as "others"

They still deserve recognition, Greeks fought bravely against the muslim invaders just like austrians, germans, poles, and every other race that you mentioned did, if they were so far away from the turks like the others are then they would not have been conquered

and i mentioned them,under "others",should i mention every freaking nation that fought them?

If you mention the Austrians who consistently got their ass kicked by the Turks, you should probably mention the fucking greeks

austrians were pretty much patrons for croats,and croats lost only 3 big battles (krbava,mohacs (with hungarians and others) and sziget (battle is a loss but ottomans lost loads of men and time),sisak,jajce,sinj..... are all wins for croats and austrians

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

Kirjoittanut Skanderbeg, 03.09.2015 at 14:38

Kirjoittanut The Tactician, 03.09.2015 at 13:13

Its funny reading the ''evil Muslims'' comments and people think we're barbaric terrorists set out to destroy westerners. Islam is a religion of peace and harmony and whoever is terrorizing someone (worse is they take the name of Islam) is contradicting Islam. Saying all Muslims are bad is like saying all westerners are bad for colonizing America hundreds of years ago.

*prepare for false evidence as to why all Muslims are bad*

I studied theology and i've read Quran, so you cant call me anti-islam, and therefore let me just say that Quran says to spread peace and support humanian aid, give charity, but also encourage Muslims to fight non-Muslims and spread religion. That part can be considered violent.


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing
but if they desist, then Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun "

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing: But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit, except those who are disabled, and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit . Unto each, Allah has promised good, but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit by a huge reward "

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna and religion should be only for Allah"

yes, i'm not an expert of anything, and don't know these exact lines and which Surah they came from, but again perspective perspective perspective. There were times were Muslims were being discriminated, persecuted, and fought. Reading the Quran you should know that and know most of this was fighting back. Can you give me any verse where it was stated go out of your way to fight irrelevant people in the name of Allah? I know Muslims are encouraged to fight against people who fight us for defense, and we should spread Allah's religion doing so.

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:20

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

Before the Ottomans, first there were Arabic khalifats, after them Seljuk Turks and other Turkish tribes... and then came the Ottomans.

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:20

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

and how did that go for them? remember ottomans and byzantine also worked together in one point against serbs when serbs came close to constantinople.
if you just use your brain for a sec you will see ottomans were most powerfull when they rushed wien,first attempt failed because of croats in szigetvar and second failed because of polish interfierence in wien,so this shows that wien and rest of europe was saved by croats and poles in those 2 battles with ofc huge help from hungarians and austrians

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:24

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:20

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

and how did that go for them? remember ottomans and byzantine also worked together in one point against serbs when serbs came close to constantinople.
if you just use your brain for a sec you will see ottomans were most powerfull when they rushed wien,first attempt failed because of croats in szigetvar and second failed because of polish interfierence in wien,so this shows that wien and rest of europe was saved by croats and poles in those 2 battles with ofc huge help from hungarians and austrians

The Abbasid empire was way stronger than the ottoman empire, because at the time of the invasions the Muslims had naval supremacy, a united Muslim population, the difference in technology was not huge, the Muslims were more fanatical than during the ottoman age, and the Byzantines had to worry about Slavic invasions in the north.

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:24

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:20

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

and how did that go for them? remember ottomans and byzantine also worked together in one point against serbs when serbs came close to constantinople.
if you just use your brain for a sec you will see ottomans were most powerfull when they rushed wien,first attempt failed because of croats in szigetvar and second failed because of polish interfierence in wien,so this shows that wien and rest of europe was saved by croats and poles in those 2 battles with ofc huge help from hungarians and austrians

talk about alternate history lmao. Greeks and Serbs were fighting kebabs for 500 turns, poland and austria latejoined at turn 499 and got all the sp. you are a joke.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 03.09.2015 at 15:23

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:20

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

Before the Ottomans, first there were Arabic khalifats, after them Seljuk Turks and other Turkish tribes... and then came the Ottomans.

oh i know that the arab caliphate is different from the ottoman empire, but i was comparing both of them, by saying that the arab caliphate was the equivalent of a ottoman empire on steroids, but perhaps my english was just crappy ;P

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 15:38

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:24

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:20

the polish and Hungarians were still sheep fucking pagans, while the mighty Byzantines had to fight the equivalent of a fanatical ottoman empire on steroids

and how did that go for them? remember ottomans and byzantine also worked together in one point against serbs when serbs came close to constantinople.
if you just use your brain for a sec you will see ottomans were most powerfull when they rushed wien,first attempt failed because of croats in szigetvar and second failed because of polish interfierence in wien,so this shows that wien and rest of europe was saved by croats and poles in those 2 battles with ofc huge help from hungarians and austrians

talk about alternate history lmao. Greeks and Serbs were fighting kebabs for 500 turns, poland and austria latejoined at turn 499 and got all the sp. you are a joke.

serbs have just one fucking battle with turks and you say they are the ones that kept europe safe? kosovo 1389 is their only fight and they lost it,second kosovo battle was in 1444 i think (could be a year or two off) but that was the coalition fighting (hungarians,austrians,croats,italians,albanians.....) then there was first campaign on belgrade in which hungarians and croats broke the siege and saved serbs,after that in 2nd fight for belgrade it fell.
khal look over that complexit wall that is preventing you from recognising that anybody else but greece and srbia did anything in the campaign

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 15:00

Seriously the resemblance in your line of thought and writing is ridiculous.. do you have a manifesto in his clan forum that you all borrow from it or something lol.

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In a more serious note, if you disagree with any of the things i am saying then you are welcome to debate me one idea at the time instead of just generalizing my entire way of thinking and calling me a hate-monger, unlike most of the lefties in this forum my stances do change when i am provided with decent arguments

currently we both agree that uncontrolled immigration is wrong, and that most Muslims are extremists, right? so i don't see why we are arguing in this topic

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 03.09.2015 at 15:41

oh i know that the arab caliphate is different from the ottoman empire, but i was comparing both of them, by saying that the arab caliphate was the equivalent of a ottoman empire on steroids, but perhaps my english was just crappy ;P

No sorry, i read it wrong... don't forget crusaders fucking them up on the way to Crusades as well.

Holy shit i have a felling khal is writing a huge ass post to me...

Btw. isn't it interesting how people can doubt recent history... but something that happened 500 or 1000 years ago they are certain about without a question.

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 16:07

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 03.09.2015 at 15:54

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 03.09.2015 at 15:38

talk about alternate history lmao. Greeks and Serbs were fighting kebabs for 500 turns, poland and austria latejoined at turn 499 and got all the sp. you are a joke.

Bullshit khal.... did you mean "fighting for kebab"?

no i mean how you fought alongside Nazis and had your own SS divisions

what does that have to do with the subject? anyway to explain it to you,for croats nazis invading yugo was salvation from serbian tyranny,thats why we supported germans that much

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 15:50

serbs have just one fucking battle with turks and you say they are the ones that kept europe safe? kosovo 1389 is their only fight and they lost it,second kosovo battle was in 1444 i think (could be a year or two off) but that was the coalition fighting (hungarians,austrians,croats,italians,albanians.....) then there was first campaign on belgrade in which hungarians and croats broke the siege and saved serbs,after that in 2nd fight for belgrade it fell.
khal look over that complexit wall that is preventing you from recognising that anybody else but greece and srbia did anything in the campaign

never said only serbia and greece did anything in the campaign. more that they were closest to the threat and the first to fall and undisputably lost more than any other western country. Also the fact that the byzantine empire, one of the greatest gems of our history fell defending the west against muslims and ottomans for hundreds of years, so an ignorant, ungratefull prick like you can spit on it. As for your claim about austria and poland, at the point of the siege of Vienna the ottoman empire was getting hit from all sides, north east, south, west, vassal and conquered states were rebelling everywhere, ottomans were falling behind in miltary technologies and tactics while the West were "learning" its opponent teqniques and how to effectively defend against them. Add the fact that it needed fucking months for more reinforcements to join the front in Austria and the cannons used to take Instabul couldnt even make it up there and along with 100 more reasons, you can get to the conclusion. now fuck off ignorant croatian drone.

I learned a new thing today. croats austrians and polish saved the west from the kebabs and greece and serbia did nothing. clowns in atwar these days lol.

Lainaa:

Kirjoittanut Aetius, 02.09.2015 at 23:34

technological progress in stagnation, resources dwindling, crime rising, intellectualism regressing, still stuck on earth slaves to the jewish paradigm, at which point you will feel terribly alone and afraid.

Keep blaming jewish for your white mistakes 15,000km away on different continent.

it was a jew who funded both sides of that war, now they are richer for it, thats pretty evil, by any standard.

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 03.09.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut Aetius, 02.09.2015 at 23:34

The traitors are doing their evil work, the genocide process is being accelerated.

Western civilization and the European race is dying out now. If we are lucky a few will survive and perhaps thrive to an extent, but it will never be the same as in our summer. WW2 will be remembered by the few as the final conflict of a great golden age, and when the wrong side won, humankind sunk swiftly into a dark age. When all of us here posting are old we will look around at our countries and see them filled with these foreigners of different culture and faith, technological progress in stagnation, resources dwindling, crime rising, intellectualism regressing, still stuck on earth slaves to the jewish paradigm, at which point you will feel terribly alone and afraid. By then it will be too late to realize the link between race, demographics, and culture

you antisemitics will blame the jews for just about anything. It never ceases to amaze me.

Kirjoittanut AlBoZzZ, 03.09.2015 at 09:50

Kirjoittanut International, 03.09.2015 at 09:17

Kirjoittanut avatar, 03.09.2015 at 08:58

Europe should accept all little kids and womens,and mods here need to ban this crotard 1 year in forum

See, this is precisely what I mean. 400 years of steady progress and prosperity has created this illusion of invulnerability in Europe.

European governments, and humanity has a whole, should admit already that there are problems that they cannot solve. You cannot just suddenly introduce millions of newcomers abruptly into a continent with completely different culture and social norms and expect things to be fine.

Why not? They did that when they colonized america

yea and that worked out real well for the natives didnt it

I agree with the sentiments that we should help these people, but realistically we cant. We already have problems with overpopulation, huge waiting lists in hospitals, for homes etc. Whats going to happen with all these refugees? Multiculturalism just does not work.

But leaving them to die is better? I understand its a big population but if those fatasses on goverments cooperate, im pretty sure we can find solution. Look at refugee camp in turkey and compare it with hungary or Greece

Kirjoittanut Evic, 03.09.2015 at 12:57

Lets see something,for 500 years,hungarians,croats,austrians,poles,serbs,russians,...... and many other balkan and eastern europan nations fought against muslim invasion of europe,hundreds of thousands of dead for what? so that millions of muslims can pour into europe with out consent

Media turned you into an idiot. Were not talking about muslims here or christians , were talking about peoples lifes

Kirjoittanut Croat, 03.09.2015 at 13:57

This macedonian retard called avatar cames once in 2 years to post his youtube music or dead kid.

I said they are not welcome, I didint say I wouldnt help that kid or any immigrant.
Life is the most important, but they are still not welcome.

I bet non of you smartass liberals will go there and help them, neither gib them living space, food or money, so go act red cross somewhere else, not fucking here.

Whatsmore, did you asked your dumb heads why are they not going to Saudi Arabia, Quatar, Jorda, Egypt or any other shit on that side, but they can cross 1273747182974720104881 balkan countries and go all to the Sweden for example.
Did you asked your dumb fucking heads how many of them are extremists, because 80% of them are men in best and strongest life years... WTF why are they not defending their country, but they will come here ruin mine? No.
If you didnt noticed, they are already doing their religion shouting at streets with megaphone.......Now imagine christians doing that in some muslim country.. They would be killed before even saying they are christians.


If you want help them so much, go give hem your houses, food, wear, etc, but they will never be welcome to my house and my country.

Let me add picture of 7-years old Nermin Divović who was shot and killed by Serbian sniper in Sarajevo just beacuse he was running on the street.


post from you on 02.09.2015 in Why are Atwar players so entitled?
http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=21294

you are nacist who care only for Croatians (ancient war tribe who came in europe from Iran lol you study this in croatian history books)
and blame serbs in forums, in other game you will get perma ban

you shitty racist kid
"Race is a real cultural, political and economic concept in society, but it is not a biological concept, and that unfortunately is what many people wrongfully consider to be the essence of race in humans -- genetic differences," says Templeton
Race doesn't exist, racism does





Тhere migrations and invasions from ancient time,Europe is still here and no one will destroy
Take USA for example country build from immigrants from whole world,biggest minority is germans but after few generations
this people forgot their origin and language now all of them are American patriots and speak english

Zlatan Ibrahimovic is also good example, he is refugee from yu war now he play for Sweden speak Swedish and his nathionality is Swedish

my point is even if 10 million Syrians settle in Germany they can not impose their own religion and culture to 80 million Germans over time all Syrians will become German Syrians and will speak German language after 200-300 years they will forgot their origins and one of this syrrians will became biger patriot then native germans

like tik tok his ancestors are jews now he forgot his origin became retarded nacist who worship Hitler and hate his own people

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/07/the-perfect-aryan-child-the-nazis-used-in-propaganda-was-actually-jewish/