Nerf DS

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 20.01.2017 at 12:55

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 20.01.2017 at 11:06

Yeah. I think it was called #TalkingShitAboutPeopleBecauseTheyBelieveInAnotherReligionThanYouDoOrHaveOtherBeliefsThanYouDoIsNotTheRightThingToDo-Disorder.

And I didnt trashtalk Laochra nor clovis, me and Laochra are just joking, but you on the other hand cant see that because you still have your ''Waffel-is-not-on-my-side-of-this-subject-so-I-hate-him-and-forget-about-all-the-years-I-know-him-but-just-simply-hate-him-for-not-supporting-me-on-this-subject-glasses'' on. Oh lets also not forget about the ''I-hate-muslims-and-thats-why-I-cant-be-objective-about-these-subjects-glasses''.

But anyways, I am not gonna make this a flamewar between you and me, and then CE interfering on my side, and Cive and all these other USA-nationalists on your side. If you wanna respond to me, do it here, which I wont respond to, or do it on PM and maybe if your response is worthy for me to respond, ill respond on it on PM.

Have a nice life Khal

Im not joking,you're siding with the guy who spent the entirety of my time as a mod spamming the admins inboxes, the forums and anyone whod listen with lies and out of context screenshots in order to try and get me demoted. He set himself against me in every way out of jealousy and spite. He was even reporting you and your your fellow syndi clanmates for global abuse and lied about that too yet you still talk to him for some reason.

And yea ive read the offtopic and sorry but im teamkhal on this one. You have a nice life too.

Lmao you and khal are so salty, my whole comment was based on the first page, where clovis deffended DS. Whether you or clovis still have problems like actually 2 little children is none of my concerns and neither do I care about them. That you still worry about a person who has obvious no life rather than spending it on this game, is your own choice, but don't dragg me into that drama. I for one know clovis a bit longer than I know you, and eventhough clovis has his different ways of outing himself, he simply doesn't go hoppin' from one to another, and when he does he actually admits to his mistakes. Which is one of the reasons I 'talk to him' >Haven't even spoken to him in like months but ok. You on the other hand, seem to make decisions for me whether or not I am joking towards you, like the last 100 forum posts we had towards eachother were, but hey when its your bitchbuddy khal that has his monthly period, then suddenly we arent joking aren't we.

On the other hand khal is a sadistic lunatic who can only think of himself being correct all the time and his way is the only way or there is no way at all. Calling other people sick and barbaric (because they are muslims, and dont 'show' sympathy for terrorist-attacks on others than muslims), yet when some terrorist-attack happends in turkey (his neighbour country) he makes threads and says how they deserve to die. Lmao, but hey, if you wanna be teamkhal so be it.

It wasn't even my intentionnor did I mention you, to drag you along this hate train khal is on atm with his final destination being me, it was him who did, and you the poorly guy who can't even see that, rides fine along with him, thats fine by me, like I said again, your choice.

Have a nice life too.

So glad everyone is wishing everyone a nice life (and on a Nerf DS thread!) So why i love this community.
♥

Kirjoittanut brianwl, 20.01.2017 at 14:03

So glad everyone is wishing everyone a nice life (and on a Nerf DS thread!) So why i love this community.
♥

DS militias got overbuffed. They are as strong as GW militias when it comes to defending.

Kirjoittanut brianwl, 20.01.2017 at 14:03

So glad everyone is wishing everyone a nice life (and on a Nerf DS thread!) So why i love this community.
♥

The magic words:
Hi I am Nero! ♥

Kirjoittanut Nations, 18.01.2017 at 05:31

Kirjoittanut Sultan of Swing, 17.01.2017 at 20:59

Kirjoittanut Nations, 17.01.2017 at 14:41

Kirjoittanut Sultan of Swing, 17.01.2017 at 11:27

Kirjoittanut 4nic, 17.01.2017 at 10:45

Kirjoittanut Sultan of Swing, 17.01.2017 at 09:33

Kirjoittanut 4nic, 15.01.2017 at 16:51

Thats their job...to kill infs if u havent noticed they gain +2att vs infs and +1 att vs milita they also have the worst defence so rushing helis with tanks and bombers is ur best option (helis have same defence as milita)

ds helis defense actually have the same as militia, or 5 (wow thats just terrible!) how interesting that its come to that no one remembers the DS buff. DS was fine just a year ago.. helis attack is fine if u ask me, the defense needs to go back to 4, and the militia range needs to go back to normal. Heres what i suggst:

Helis
Attack: same
Defense: -1
Crit: -1

Militia
Attack: same
Defense: same
Range: -1

I feel that if we take a crit point away from helis it can do away with some of those crazy rolls that helis seem to get, but keeping the attack will still keep the cultish appeal to playing the strat. Getting rid of the defense would mean that players cant just simply rush balkans with helis as ukraine, because now they cant really hold them that well. This would lead to an increase in thought and strategical thinking as players will have to genuinely think about where and when to rush, and not just rush anything and everything with a gray star/circle on it.

if milita gets -1 range nobody would play it,it has 0 use outside eu+ 10k,have you seen anyone play 50k ds? no cus they always get destroyed by tanks and bombers, last thing it needs is nerf,look how RA ended after it got it

thats obviously false considering people still played it before the boost so...

and ra was overnerfed.. all im saying is revert ds back to the way it was......... no one can read apparently

RA war nerfed because Eagle and Laochra couldnt beat it in europe 10k,or hadnt found a way how to,so instead of rynig to find a way to beat it,they prefered to lick admin ass and cry in forums.RA wasnt by any means overpowered.And after all that dck sucking admins decided to nerf it and made absolute crap.Getting you bankrupt turn 4 and getting no extra attack.

lao and eagle werent the only ones having issues, i played ra and it was quite op, didnt lose a single game i used it. there were plenty of others asking for an ra nerf.. in fact, if you recall, the majority of people did want it nerfed, so it was not just eagle and lao as u claim.

proof,i can fin threats where lao and eagle asked for RA and b,itz nerf,and the majority of people in comments were against it.

quite the memory u got there..

plus the people who were against it were people who liked the fact that it was a 1 unit strategy.. i wonder if u remember the stats lmao

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 21.01.2017 at 01:17

DS militias got overbuffed. They are as strong as GW militias when it comes to defending.

gw militia have +1 defence so not quite

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 21.01.2017 at 10:09

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 21.01.2017 at 01:17

DS militias got overbuffed. They are as strong as GW militias when it comes to defending.

gw militia have +1 defence so not quite

5 base def for DS militia feels too much tbh

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 21.01.2017 at 11:30

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 21.01.2017 at 10:09

Kirjoittanut Witch-Doctor, 21.01.2017 at 01:17

DS militias got overbuffed. They are as strong as GW militias when it comes to defending.

gw militia have +1 defence so not quite

5 base def for DS militia feels too much tbh

It is and i explained why earlier in this thread. Regular duelists will be the main players who will experience this imbalance, especially as ds becomes more and more popular. Instead though we get retired players, ds lovers and genuine noobs fighting for ds to remain as it is.

So guys i have a suggestion.Why lets buff AAs a little bit? Maybe -10 or -20 cost and +1 range? That should help imp and PD against DS wihout fucking up DS.

Kirjoittanut Nations, 24.01.2017 at 07:53

So guys i have a suggestion.Why lets buff AAs a little bit? Maybe -10 or -20 cost and +1 range? That should help imp and PD against DS wihout fucking up DS.

Yeah fuck thinking about sm and ds vs other expensive strats.

Kirjoittanut Xenosapien, 25.01.2017 at 18:31

Kirjoittanut Nations, 24.01.2017 at 07:53

So guys i have a suggestion.Why lets buff AAs a little bit? Maybe -10 or -20 cost and +1 range? That should help imp and PD against DS wihout fucking up DS.

Yeah fuck thinking about sm and ds vs other expensive strats.

AAs get special extra def bonus against helis then.

Kirjoittanut Nations, 25.01.2017 at 18:36

Kirjoittanut Xenosapien, 25.01.2017 at 18:31

Kirjoittanut Nations, 24.01.2017 at 07:53

So guys i have a suggestion.Why lets buff AAs a little bit? Maybe -10 or -20 cost and +1 range? That should help imp and PD against DS wihout fucking up DS.

Yeah fuck thinking about sm and ds vs other expensive strats.

AAs get special extra def bonus against helis then.

still doesn't solve expensive strats vs ds, it also changes the gameplay of ds in an undesirable way, ds needs defence nerfed.

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 20.01.2017 at 13:18

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 20.01.2017 at 12:55

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 20.01.2017 at 11:06

Yeah. I think it was called #TalkingShitAboutPeopleBecauseTheyBelieveInAnotherReligionThanYouDoOrHaveOtherBeliefsThanYouDoIsNotTheRightThingToDo-Disorder.

And I didnt trashtalk Laochra nor clovis, me and Laochra are just joking, but you on the other hand cant see that because you still have your ''Waffel-is-not-on-my-side-of-this-subject-so-I-hate-him-and-forget-about-all-the-years-I-know-him-but-just-simply-hate-him-for-not-supporting-me-on-this-subject-glasses'' on. Oh lets also not forget about the ''I-hate-muslims-and-thats-why-I-cant-be-objective-about-these-subjects-glasses''.

But anyways, I am not gonna make this a flamewar between you and me, and then CE interfering on my side, and Cive and all these other USA-nationalists on your side. If you wanna respond to me, do it here, which I wont respond to, or do it on PM and maybe if your response is worthy for me to respond, ill respond on it on PM.

Have a nice life Khal

Im not joking,you're siding with the guy who spent the entirety of my time as a mod spamming the admins inboxes, the forums and anyone whod listen with lies and out of context screenshots in order to try and get me demoted. He set himself against me in every way out of jealousy and spite. He was even reporting you and your your fellow syndi clanmates for global abuse and lied about that too yet you still talk to him for some reason.

And yea ive read the offtopic and sorry but im teamkhal on this one. You have a nice life too.

Lmao you and khal are so salty, my whole comment was based on the first page, where clovis deffended DS. Whether you or clovis still have problems like actually 2 little children is none of my concerns and neither do I care about them. That you still worry about a person who has obvious no life rather than spending it on this game, is your own choice, but don't dragg me into that drama. I for one know clovis a bit longer than I know you, and eventhough clovis has his different ways of outing himself, he simply doesn't go hoppin' from one to another, and when he does he actually admits to his mistakes. Which is one of the reasons I 'talk to him' >Haven't even spoken to him in like months but ok. You on the other hand, seem to make decisions for me whether or not I am joking towards you, like the last 100 forum posts we had towards eachother were, but hey when its your bitchbuddy khal that has his monthly period, then suddenly we arent joking aren't we.

On the other hand khal is a sadistic lunatic who can only think of himself being correct all the time and his way is the only way or there is no way at all. Calling other people sick and barbaric (because they are muslims, and dont 'show' sympathy for terrorist-attacks on others than muslims), yet when some terrorist-attack happends in turkey (his neighbour country) he makes threads and says how they deserve to die. Lmao, but hey, if you wanna be teamkhal so be it.

It wasn't even my intentionnor did I mention you, to drag you along this hate train khal is on atm with his final destination being me, it was him who did, and you the poorly guy who can't even see that, rides fine along with him, thats fine by me, like I said again, your choice.

Have a nice life too.

@Lao



@waff Thanks for the support.

@Khal don't forget that it was own Laochra who pushed this DS change years ago. Now he turned against what he made. Pretty familiar situation, eh? Didn't he do the same after I beat his Cameron?

At the lights of this day he still can't recognize it. How funny. See you in our next Africa duel.

@DS Nerf

the proposed changes are horrendous over a non-issue. Don't even go over the AA idea as it will undermine other strategies as well.

The fact that (imo) best east player atm (laochra) agrees with nerf, and that players who do not even play (chess, waffel, clovis) disagree tells more than is needed.

Kirjoittanut Black Swans, 01.02.2017 at 04:27

The fact that (imo) best east player atm (laochra) agrees with nerf, and that players who do not even play (chess, waffel, clovis) disagree tells more than is needed.

Are you srsly judging a strategy by who supports it and who doesn't?

HAHAHA who do you propose nerfs it...

Kirjoittanut Cold Case, 01.02.2017 at 06:02

Kirjoittanut Black Swans, 01.02.2017 at 04:27

The fact that (imo) best east player atm (laochra) agrees with nerf, and that players who do not even play (chess, waffel, clovis) disagree tells more than is needed.

Are you srsly judging a strategy by who supports it and who doesn't?

Obviously. Do you think that instead of surgeon someone else should operate on you?
Of course you don't

Mili boost made strats who use militia as primary def to op and for that i blame alexmezza for posting that ss telling admins militia defence in city was missing.

Kirjoittanut klevis, 04.02.2017 at 02:56

Mili boost made strats who use militia as primary def to op and for that i blame alexmezza for posting that ss telling admins militia defence in city was missing.

Jesus, that isn't even related to this.

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 28.01.2017 at 20:09

@Khal don't forget that it was own Laochra who pushed this DS change years ago.

As for those marking us as inactive: don't forget that DS haven't suffered any change since 2015. Also, no strategy has become weaker defensively since then. So our experience is well worth here.

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 04.02.2017 at 05:47

Kirjoittanut klevis, 04.02.2017 at 02:56

Mili boost made strats who use militia as primary def to op and for that i blame alexmezza for posting that ss telling admins militia defence in city was missing.

Jesus, that isn't even related to this.

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 28.01.2017 at 20:09

@Khal don't forget that it was own Laochra who pushed this DS change years ago.

As for those marking us as inactive: don't forget that DS haven't suffered any change since 2015. Also, no strategy has become weaker defensively since then. So our experience is well worth here.

Do you agree that I was active past two years ?

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 04.02.2017 at 05:47

Kirjoittanut klevis, 04.02.2017 at 02:56

Mili boost made strats who use militia as primary def to op and for that i blame alexmezza for posting that ss telling admins militia defence in city was missing.

Jesus, that isn't even related to this.

I think he meant the gw militia that got a boost for being inside city

Kirjoittanut Htin, 04.02.2017 at 05:50

I think he meant the gw militia that got a boost for being inside city

Might be, because DS militias never had a boost inside of cities.

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 04.02.2017 at 05:56

Kirjoittanut Htin, 04.02.2017 at 05:50

I think he meant the gw militia that got a boost for being inside city

Might be, because DS militias never had a boost inside of cities.

It's the only strategy that got stronger after city bonus was apply. the infantry lost defence city to nerf it after admin implemented the city bonus. gw got stronger because city bonus was reactivated. it was 5 defence but became 6 defence with city bonus (referring to militia defence)

I'm surprised at the talk of DS being too strong...I have played it about 3 or 4 times, and the defense was terrible, particularly against planes. Trying to cross an ocean with helis full of marines was a crap shoot at best!

Helis are not all that strong, overall. If you'll note, the CC remains the standard 5...it's only +2A and +1D, where most strats usually do +2CC to the preferred units.

If you think that helis are too strong against Infantry, then the better thing to do would be to reduce the defense nerf on Infantry. The standard Militia have -1D vs. helis, and the standard Infantry have -2D. If it's too much, then remove the nerf on militia and reduce the infantry nerf to -1D.

Because of the expense and weakness of helis, my clones set the unit with +1CC to try to balance things out a bit, overall. Now that the cost has been reduced to 170, I might return it to 5CC...not sure, yet. Right now, it's still at 6CC.

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 20.01.2017 at 13:18

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 20.01.2017 at 12:55

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 20.01.2017 at 11:06

Yeah. I think it was called #TalkingShitAboutPeopleBecauseTheyBelieveInAnotherReligionThanYouDoOrHaveOtherBeliefsThanYouDoIsNotTheRightThingToDo-Disorder.

And I didnt trashtalk Laochra nor clovis, me and Laochra are just joking, but you on the other hand cant see that because you still have your ''Waffel-is-not-on-my-side-of-this-subject-so-I-hate-him-and-forget-about-all-the-years-I-know-him-but-just-simply-hate-him-for-not-supporting-me-on-this-subject-glasses'' on. Oh lets also not forget about the ''I-hate-muslims-and-thats-why-I-cant-be-objective-about-these-subjects-glasses''.

But anyways, I am not gonna make this a flamewar between you and me, and then CE interfering on my side, and Cive and all these other USA-nationalists on your side. If you wanna respond to me, do it here, which I wont respond to, or do it on PM and maybe if your response is worthy for me to respond, ill respond on it on PM.

Have a nice life Khal

Im not joking,you're siding with the guy who spent the entirety of my time as a mod spamming the admins inboxes, the forums and anyone whod listen with lies and out of context screenshots in order to try and get me demoted. He set himself against me in every way out of jealousy and spite. He was even reporting you and your your fellow syndi clanmates for global abuse and lied about that too yet you still talk to him for some reason.

And yea ive read the offtopic and sorry but im teamkhal on this one. You have a nice life too.

Lmao you and khal are so salty, my whole comment was based on the first page, where clovis deffended DS. Whether you or clovis still have problems like actually 2 little children is none of my concerns and neither do I care about them. That you still worry about a person who has obvious no life rather than spending it on this game, is your own choice, but don't dragg me into that drama. I for one know clovis a bit longer than I know you, and eventhough clovis has his different ways of outing himself, he simply doesn't go hoppin' from one to another, and when he does he actually admits to his mistakes. Which is one of the reasons I 'talk to him' >Haven't even spoken to him in like months but ok. You on the other hand, seem to make decisions for me whether or not I am joking towards you, like the last 100 forum posts we had towards eachother were, but hey when its your bitchbuddy khal that has his monthly period, then suddenly we arent joking aren't we.

On the other hand khal is a sadistic lunatic who can only think of himself being correct all the time and his way is the only way or there is no way at all. Calling other people sick and barbaric (because they are muslims, and dont 'show' sympathy for terrorist-attacks on others than muslims), yet when some terrorist-attack happends in turkey (his neighbour country) he makes threads and says how they deserve to die. Lmao, but hey, if you wanna be teamkhal so be it.

It wasn't even my intentionnor did I mention you, to drag you along this hate train khal is on atm with his final destination being me, it was him who did, and you the poorly guy who can't even see that, rides fine along with him, thats fine by me, like I said again, your choice.

Have a nice life too.

well u and Khal both en listed, from 3 of u i think Laochra is only normal person, i know game is full of lunatics anyway, i dont care Laochra is mod btw

Kirjoittanut Black Swans, 15.01.2017 at 08:16

5 HELIS KILL 8 INF
TRY TO DO THAT WITH SM 5 BOMBERS
OR 5 ANYTHING.
EITHER MAKE HELIS 200
OR LOWER THEIR ATTACK

IRL should been possible either with helis or bombers, still i think Marines should cost as in HW

Kirjoittanut MURAD IV, 05.02.2017 at 08:28

well u and Khal both en listed, from 3 of u i think Laochra is only normal person, i know game is full of lunatics anyway, i dont care Laochra is mod btw

Ohh noo

The OP was about Nerfing DS. Please slander each other somewhere else (like the Off-topic forum), as all of your insults have nothing to do with AW or the actual topic on hand.

I think what they say is "nerf DS ukraine"