24.07.2016 - 00:14
Its true though isn't it. I'm sure you have an ounce of imagination, try and use it to envision a world where 9/11 didn't happen. That was the day 5k Americans died and their response was to persecute 2 billion people. This reminds me that I read a really good book 4 years ago called the " reluctant fundamentalist" you should check it out.
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24.07.2016 - 00:23
Emotions over facts all over again, im tired of liberals like you, atleast give me a proper argument.
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24.07.2016 - 00:28
Atleast I don't depend on overcooked stereotypes to respond to something I don't like. You're not some "stoic" righty, you're just an insignificant scum speck. I'm not liberal either, I"m bang in the middle. I don't want Syrians "flooding" into my country, at the same time I don't want Syria run by a Russian puppet regime that mistreats those same people, because I recognise that they are still people, not fucking aliens.
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24.07.2016 - 00:47
Stereotypes? Islam is a violent, repressive ideology, it takes a damn fool to deny this. Islam itself cannot operate side by side with western liberal culture, now instead of making the immigrants change you want the hosts to change all in effort not to offend muslims. If you trully wanted to help these people you would make them denounce islam as it is what is keeping middle east a shithole for the last 1400 years. Also if you ask syrians im sure most will agree they prefered living under "russian puppet regime" to what they live as now.
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24.07.2016 - 01:10
When did you become the genius of Islam? You know nothing, that's why you're stuck playing AW all day and not working in Politics
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24.07.2016 - 01:49
Genius of islam? Not quite sure what that means. Anyway, you dont need to be a muzzie spiritual leader to know a thing or two about their shitty religion. Ive had history of religions for 2 years in high school and did plenty of research on islam particulary. What ive found is that islam is an ideology that cannot assimilate into western world, you can try to argue me on this but there is plenty of statistics and data that prove me right.
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24.07.2016 - 01:55
Hahahahahhahahaaha. The fact you're still in high school and commenting! Kid, go crawl back under your rock
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24.07.2016 - 02:10
Can the world go a day without a member of the "religion of peace" culturally enriching a crowd of people?
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24.07.2016 - 02:11
My age makes me somehow unable to think properly? If that is the point you are making then why were you bitching in chat how the "older" generation fucked the younger one in brexit? You seem to twist things to whatever fits you at the given time. Also arent you like 20? that only makes you 2 years old so....
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24.07.2016 - 02:14
I usually wonder to myself how so many people can be so ignorant in these forums, then you come along and remind me most players are only 16 years old... You don't know about the world yet, I'm 23, I studied at uni, I met loads of cool people from all walks of life and I know what real research is. No matter what you say, the fact is, you don't KNOW in the literal definition of the word enough to come up with an original succinct comment that adds value to this thread, whether it is for or against the existence of a religion that has 2 billion followers and dates back 1600 years. You can only share with us you canned arguments that you've heard from people older than you, who themselves are insignificant. I'm here to tell you to think by yourself.. And to think for yourself means to question everything you can, even the stuff you agree with already. If you end up thinking the same thing after that as you do already, great, maybe then you'll atleast say something worth reading. But no man who has ever lived can be called a thinker or claim to know something if he hasn't changed his mind on something atleast once. Even as I type this I'm rethinking what I think about Islam, and generally coming to the same conclusion because it overrides all others, they are people like you and me and they cant choose where they are born or the culture they are born into, but so many are still capable of leading peaceful lives, which suggests Islam isn't the problem but something else, either within it or something that latches onto it. The fact is that saying Islam as a whole is the problem is only going to make it a problem for you, via your own hatred for it
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24.07.2016 - 02:18
I'm still part of the younger generation, I'm older than you though and have a university level education, I'm not changing anything I say it just has more layers ro it than you seem to be able to comprehend.. I don't like sounding this stuck up, but bollox comments like this bring it out of me.
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24.07.2016 - 02:21
If it can't assimilate into the western world then why is sharia law a threat to the western world as Vale suggested? *Fucking logic*
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24.07.2016 - 02:25
You say you met muslims in person, you say they are nice poeple who love and respect others right? See i live in a majority muslim country and in a majority muslim part of it, they are not nice and they do not respect others! They might behave ok for a few years or generations, but once they become the majority they will destroy you.It has happened many times before in indonesia, india (parts of it), sudan, kosovo, albania and heck even bosnia. Now lets leave opinions behind and focus on the facts and stats. 30% of UK muslims think sharia law should be enacted in the UK, 98% of them think homosexuality is unexceptable and 30% of them think it should be a crime, over 40% of Uk muslims think womens role is to basicly be a servant to the man and so on and so on. Scariest part is that there are reports of sharia law being enforced by muslims in their parts of UK cities already. Oh and if you want sources for the statistics ill be happy to dig them up, plenty of polls were done on this.
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24.07.2016 - 02:27
I dont think you know what assimilate means, moving to europe and then establishing your own sub culture in it where you enact your own laws parallel to the state is not assimilating.
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24.07.2016 - 02:32
You have some facts! Fantastic! I wont ask you for a source because it would be fucking pedantic, but I would like to know which countries you've lived in? Okay great arguments I can work with this... So now we get onto a cornerstone of western civilisation "freedom of speech" there are constitutional features for this in virtually all western countries.. The point is people can think whatever the fuck they like, so long as they don't act on it. And most Muslims don't act on it, because they know it would be wrong to. There are plenty of westerners who have similar views believe it or not, the whole anti gay thing, the whole "women belong in the kitchen". That's not Islam! That's any outright rightwing slash conservative opinion ever! These "reports" of sharia being enacted in the UK.. They're small events that get quashed right quick. Its not a threat to us
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24.07.2016 - 02:51
Ive lived in bosnia my whole life, its even considered a moderate muslim country and yet its still horrible for non muslims living in muslim parts of it. And yes, many christians dont support gays or dont really support women rights BUT, no gays will be killed for being gay by christians while in muslim countries (specifically in iran) there are still cases of gays being killed or punished severely for their sexuality. No women will be stoned for cheating on their husband in the west while in muslim countries (saudi arabia etc) women will be killed if they dont get certain ammount of male witnesses to prove they have been raped (for real), dont try to compare the two, one has negative stand on gays while the other will kill them. We may have traditional belief that women are suppose to be housewives and raise children but none of us force women to be that way, none of us force them to cover themselves from head to toe in black poliester, none of us ban females to vote and none of us will kill them for a mistake they make. Yes the sharia thing is so far isolated events but when 30% of muslims in UK want to be under sharia then you have a problem.
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24.07.2016 - 03:10
I'm 21 with a top tier university level education and I agree with at least 90% of his points, so tbh bringing up his age and level of education is just silly. Also if you want to talk about Islamic scholars, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (the leader of ISIS) has three university degrees including a PhD in Islamic Studies. You gonna claim that he doesn't understand his religion?
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24.07.2016 - 03:14
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24.07.2016 - 03:30
Can you fucking read? I'm argueinf that sharia law cant be assimilated into western culture and that's why its not a threat. You and vale have to contrary opinions on this. Re read for fuck sake
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24.07.2016 - 03:34
These features correspond more closely to GDP than religious culture... I.e poorer and more broken countries have this, the UK and US cant be effected by It from within provided we look out for our citizens.
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24.07.2016 - 03:36
He understands how to take his religion and use it to fuck up his own kind. I would happily argue with you on the same basis tho, got any new and relevant points to make that we haven't heard or addressed already?
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24.07.2016 - 03:40
How can a religious law assimilate itself? Im pretty sure assimilation is for people and it isnt happening, muslims stick together in cities and thus dont integrate into the host culture. P.S dont get mad and start cursing just because you are losing the argument, its not a polite thing to do
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24.07.2016 - 03:45
he is just using straw-mans and moving the goal post,it has gotten to such a point where it looks like he is just debating himself and this topic has become just another place for him to unload his mental dumps.
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24.07.2016 - 04:03
Again you can't read. We were talking about assimilation in the UK.. it happens on a sociopolitical level. Sharia law can't threaten us because it goes against the concept of freedom, which is a principle people seek to be governed under when they seek to live here, that includes syrian refugees. P.S how am I losing? Because there are more of you than me? This is an argument that has raged for the past 15 years and it boils down to a choice between being open or closed.
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24.07.2016 - 04:05
My mental dumps? You made a post to attack Islam in a case where Islam is not to blame. Well done
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24.07.2016 - 06:17
I cant be bothered to argue with someone that values anecdotes, arguments with false premises to begin with and emotional appeals, over statistical trends and data. What i will say though, is that i just got an amazing offer to go work in Germany in a higly paid managerial position and i would be lying if i didnt say i havent given an answer yet. I am afraid of jihadist attacks, im not ashamed to admit it. Germany is the next big target after France, things will escalate for sure. I know the probabilities of me getting caught in a muslim attack there will be low-ish, but they are still there. I dont want to be a fucking statistic,i still have alot to live for. Now answer me, why the fuck should i hinder my own financial development, my own life, my own career, all because of some fucking subhuman sandnigger muslim fanatics. Why the fuck should i be afraid to move to a supposedly stable and advanced European country. Why motherfucker, WHY? Fuck off muslim cunts and muslim fag lovers, i hate your fucking guts.
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24.07.2016 - 10:37
I decided that I won't even bother to argue,but here I am,once again. No I won't argue because that will just entrench people's belief, instead I will just ask civecnavi these questions: How come that you live,and you've been living your whole time in muslim majority part in,now, muslim majority country,and yet you are alive,and live with them,eat with them,go to school with them and hate them ? If "they" are so awful,how comes that they didn't kill you or your parents or burnt your house,or forced you to move "with your own" ? You know that many of those things happend in Bosnia,before,during and some time after the aggression against Bosnia and Herzegovina. Could you give us info of ,how many people in Bosnia and Herzegovina support lgbt population ? I would say 1-2%,most of them being in biggest urban center,Sarajevo,which also has highest gdp. Could you give us also percentage of people http://prntscr.com/bww7xh -Greece http://prntscr.com/bww84o - Kosovo http://prntscr.com/bww8gz - Bosnia,UK and German Sharia is coming-lolz
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24.07.2016 - 11:20
you are making it sound like there arent any dumbfucks in universities
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24.07.2016 - 11:34
there totally are, but far less than in high school
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24.07.2016 - 12:23
That's irrelevant, the point is that yet another attack in a western country was carried out by a degenerate muslim you people are a cancer
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