A "Gentlemen's Forum"

Kirjoittanut brianwl, 12.08.2017 at 10:07

One other suggestion i put forth in mod forum was that we create a 'gentleman's forum' in which mods would clean the posts as you suggest. This would create a 'space' for those players who want off-topic/flame posts removed. This was only supported by 3 or 4 mods, and never materialized.

Seems like too much work for them either way. Maybe if there was a way to create mods for forums alone, they could make you forum mod and you could help clean it.

Kirjoittanut Dr. Trsid, 13.08.2017 at 01:32

Seems like too much work for them either way. Maybe if there was a way to create mods for forums alone, they could make you forum mod and you could help clean it.

Make new thread, I am only re-proposing brianwl's idea here because i like it

Gentlemen on atwar? Nice fantasy.

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 07:19

Gentlemen on atwar? Nice fantasy.

Thanks!

So I am assuming ur not a gentlemen? xaxa

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 09:33

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Actually i was thinking of a forum where anything could be discussed (except off-topic stuff) but would be heavily moderated (ie the exact opposite of off-topic)

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 13.08.2017 at 07:51

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 07:19

Gentlemen on atwar? Nice fantasy.

Thanks!

So I am assuming ur not a gentlemen? xaxa

Well you know what happens when you assume?

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 12:11

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 13.08.2017 at 07:51

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 07:19

Gentlemen on atwar? Nice fantasy.

Thanks!

So I am assuming ur not a gentlemen? xaxa

Well you know what happens when you assume?

I turn out to be right? Yeah I guess so... xa

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 13.08.2017 at 12:54

I turn out to be right? Yeah I guess so... xa

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If you gonna give it a shot most forum post will be removed lol

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 13:00

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 13.08.2017 at 12:54

I turn out to be right? Yeah I guess so... xa

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I like the idea, but what makes it any different than General Discussion? Is that forum not supposed to be moderated as well?

Kirjoittanut LukeTan, 13.08.2017 at 10:37

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 09:33

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Actually i was thinking of a forum where anything could be discussed (except off-topic stuff) but would be heavily moderated (ie the exact opposite of off-topic)

What better than self-moderation? By the creator of each new topic.

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 18:36

Kirjoittanut LukeTan, 13.08.2017 at 10:37

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 09:33

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Actually i was thinking of a forum where anything could be discussed (except off-topic stuff) but would be heavily moderated (ie the exact opposite of off-topic)

What better than self-moderation? By the creator of each new topic.

I agree I have compulsive micro-managing, No troll would go undeleted, but aswell, the option to ban trolls would need to be implimented, maybe a per post ban instead of a universal one, that way your not deleting the same trolls messages over and over, and no one can claim abuse ad they are only banned from tgat particular post.

Kirjoittanut Helly, 15.08.2017 at 14:45

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 18:36

Kirjoittanut LukeTan, 13.08.2017 at 10:37

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 09:33

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Actually i was thinking of a forum where anything could be discussed (except off-topic stuff) but would be heavily moderated (ie the exact opposite of off-topic)

What better than self-moderation? By the creator of each new topic.

I agree I have compulsive micro-managing, No troll would go undeleted, but aswell, the option to ban trolls would need to be implimented, maybe a per post ban instead of a universal one, that way your not deleting the same trolls messages over and over, and no one can claim abuse ad they are only banned from tgat particular post.

Could be added to the banlist: ignore, ban from hosted game, ban from own map/scenario, ban from created thread.

All this talking about this supposed "gentlemen's" forum while not being capable of properly quoting one another! Bitch, pls! You'd all be banned from it

Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 16.08.2017 at 09:25

All this talking about this supposed "gentlemen's" forum while not being capable of properly quoting one another! Bitch, pls! You'd all be banned from it

Support!

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 18:36

Kirjoittanut LukeTan, 13.08.2017 at 10:37

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 09:33

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Actually i was thinking of a forum where anything could be discussed (except off-topic stuff) but would be heavily moderated (ie the exact opposite of off-topic)

What better than self-moderation? By the creator of each new topic.

Interesting comment there... Change of stance?

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 06.06.2015 at 08:08

Self-moderation? Nah, don't believe in it.

Still, I always believed that if the creator itself request mods to clean up his topic, mods should do it. Why wouldn't that be the case? At anytime the given creator could just as well delete the thread and re-post, sacrifying valuable comments along with the trashtalk. So I still don't understand what "speech of freedom" are mods trying to defend there.

Not necessarily saying that if you post in my thread, your post is mine. But more like if you post on my thread, you need to follow certain rules...

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 07:19

Gentlemen on atwar? Nice fantasy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I've played you many times but i didnt pay any particular attention to your gameplay until recently when you decided to become so vocal on the forums. You are one of those high ranks who i would confidently expect to stomp over in any situation. That recent cw where i had killed you safely without taking any risks by t5 was a good example.

Perhaps 2017 Laochra will start being a gentlemen, specially to low ranks

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 20.08.2017 at 12:52

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 13.08.2017 at 07:19

Gentlemen on atwar? Nice fantasy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I've played you many times but i didnt pay any particular attention to your gameplay until recently when you decided to become so vocal on the forums. You are one of those high ranks who i would confidently expect to stomp over in any situation. That recent cw where i had killed you safely without taking any risks by t5 was a good example.

Perhaps 2017 Laochra will start being a gentlemen, specially to low ranks

Where did i imply i was a gentleman? I can be a gentleman, but i choose not to be.

Dickhead.

edit: btw is this your new thing. Looking around the forums for reasons to try and have a go at me(and failing miserably). 2 can play at that game.

On another note, we need a flamewar/trashtalking forum... would be used a lot

Kirjoittanut 4nic, 20.08.2017 at 14:27

On another note, we need a flamewar/trashtalking forum... would be used a lot

That already exists. It is called AW forums.

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 20.08.2017 at 12:48

Still, I always believed that if the creator itself request mods to clean up his topic, mods should do it. Why wouldn't that be the case?

case 1:

Player creates a heil hitler thread.
Like minded players post their support of hitler.
Some players argue against hitler and that he is a bad guy.
Creator complains asking their posts be removed.

.......
.......
.......

case 1997

Player creates thread claiming clovis is a moron.
The community posts in agreement
Clovis argues that he is not a moron.
Thread creator asks mods to clean his thread of morons.

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 20.08.2017 at 14:37

case 1:

Player creates a heil hitler thread.
Like minded players post their support of hitler.
Some players argue against hitler and that he is a bad guy.
Creator complains asking their posts be removed.

Mods lock/delete the creator's thread because posting about hitler is forbidden by the rules. Although I don't remember the specific rule, chess/safari can confirm this.

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 20.08.2017 at 14:37

case 1997

Player creates thread claiming clovis is a moron.
The community posts in agreement
Clovis argues that he is not a moron.
Thread creator asks mods to clean his thread of morons.

Mods lock/delete the creator's thread because pillory against other's players is forbidden by rule.

But I get where you're going. So instead I'm gonna give you a real example:

Lainaa:

case #
Laochra makes a thread claiming that blitz is OP.
Croat complains about Blitz being not OP.
Laochra insults everybody arguing how he knows everything as always.
Laochra get mods to clean the thread and delete Croat's messages.

.
.
..
Croat creates his own thread to prove that Blitz had become suuuper weak.
Laochra now can't get mods to act because it is not his thread.
Admins changes the strategy, and laochra cries over.

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 20.08.2017 at 13:55

I can be a gentleman, but i choose not to be.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Laochra 2017 ladies and gentlemen. "I can prove this, but i choose not to".

Just lock it ffs

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 20.08.2017 at 14:58

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Laochra 2017 ladies and gentlemen. "I can prove this, but i choose not to".

I've never said that. But i am glad such notions make you smile.

Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 20.08.2017 at 12:48

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 18:36

Kirjoittanut LukeTan, 13.08.2017 at 10:37

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 13.08.2017 at 09:33

Previous two threads would have been deleted.

Was proposed and discussed with Brianwl back in 2015 (January-February).
The idea was:

Lainaa:

Maybe something like a space in forum, where players can start topics and everybody that adds comments to this topic has his post provisionally published (pending approval) in a gray backgrounded box or with a light colored background.
The creator of the topic can then approve the comment (NOT EDIT) and it becomes a permanent part of the topic... or the creator of the topic can disapprove the comment and it becomes hidden (NOT DELETED).
In the upper part of the topic there could be a check-box, which could allow players to read all comments (Approved and Dismissed)

Actually i was thinking of a forum where anything could be discussed (except off-topic stuff) but would be heavily moderated (ie the exact opposite of off-topic)

What better than self-moderation? By the creator of each new topic.

Interesting comment there... Change of stance?

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 06.06.2015 at 08:08

Self-moderation? Nah, don't believe in it.

Still, I always believed that if the creator itself request mods to clean up his topic, mods should do it. Why wouldn't that be the case? At anytime the given creator could just as well delete the thread and re-post, sacrifying valuable comments along with the trashtalk. So I still don't understand what "speech of freedom" are mods trying to defend there.

Not necessarily saying that if you post in my thread, your post is mine. But more like if you post on my thread, you need to follow certain rules...

No change of stance, just supporting self-moderation in specific issues: justified map/scenario ban, free ban from hosted games, free ignore option, self-moderated threads in specific section of forum.
No, moderators cannot follow blindly every request to clean-up a topic. If thread is not against rules, on what basis can a deletion be grounded?

Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 20.08.2017 at 22:30

No, moderators cannot follow blindly every request to clean-up a topic. If thread is not against rules, on what basis can a deletion be grounded?

When you say "against the rules", do you refer to the general rules? If so, then my answer is simply on the grounds of the thread's specific rules (which is my suggestion).

This is already happening in some parts of the forums. Moderators implemented thread-specific rules in threads such as the Banlist appeal thread or some ad-hoc threads created due to events (e.g, strategy threads, Ask-Us-Anything, some CW drama thread, and so on). You could make a post and your post can be about the thread's topic or even in accordance with the general rules, yet still deleted by mods because it doesn't fits the thread-specific rules.

Another good example is the Fun Screenshot thread. The creator goes to mods from time to time to get his thread cleaned from non-screenshot comments, and moderators attend his call.