Tips, Tricks and Common knowledge about AtWar.
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Tips, Tricks and Common knowledge about AtWar.
All the communities have general information. If you are looking for learn more about AtWar's community, then this topic is for you
Recent edit.
•) Color changes.
•) Now the curiosities are counted. They have a number at the start.
•) Currently I have 52 curiosities. Date: 02/10/14.
I am planning to keep this going!!!
Afterwind.
Back in the game's beginning.
Back in the game's beginning.
1) First user of AtWar? "Tester". It was an account made by the Admins for test the game.
2) The great Merge, the charge between AtWar and Afterwind was made on 28/11/2012.
3) The First Moderator was Cardinal. However the first "Moderator Team" was:
Cardinal
specter
MarcJr *
LiodaGobert
King Cow
n00less cluebie
HeyI
Gigglin
Guest14502
sificvoid
4)Currently, Guest14502 and Pinheiro are the oldest Mods in the Moderator Team.
5) The last users in being promoted to Moderator are BertanK and deviL. They where promoted on 6/10/14.
AtWar's projects.
Some of the most know projects carried on by the players of the community.
Some of the most know projects carried on by the players of the community.
AtWar Radio Recruitment Office
6) atWar have a radio integrated to the game. It was suggested by tesla. Also, hugosch and Kona-chan helped to manage it.
Currently Trooper21 is the president.
AtWar Times Network
7) The AtWar Times Network, better know as ATN, is a central where people submit reports, articles and opinions about the game. It emerge as a combination from LDK's Afterwind Times (AT) and Mathdino's Afterwind News Network (ANN). The homepage can be found in the next link:
Since 06.11.2013, Madara is the president.
AtWar Academy
8) If you are still a newbie and would like some advice for improve, then you can have a mentor willing to help you! The community also have an AtWar Academy in which you can have a class about certain knowledge in atWar. It is currently presided by ]Mr_Own_U.
The AtWar academy first idea comes from a player named Emir Timur, (currently Kentuckyball). He suggested the community to make "a program" that allow lowranks to be trained. After that, Soul Reaper (currently Soul) started the first "Adopt a newbie" program. After 6 months, when Soul left atWar, Madara took care of the program, launching the Second version of the " Adopt a newb".
However, after 2 months madara left the game for a while and shutted down the program. Therefore, Mr_Own_U made the actual one. This is the link to the currently AtWar Academy:
AtWar clans.
Know more about their contribution.
Know more about their contribution.
9) Illyria, one of the most competitive coalition, archieve their 400 Coalition Wars on 25.09.2014 , that is, 7 month and 8 days after the creation of the clan.
Game play
Advance concepts, common tips and more!
Advance concepts, common tips and more!
10) Max units UK can get on paris turn 1: 52
11) Max units UK can get on netherlands turn 1: 48
12) Wondering why your infantry are slow? The Perfect Defense strategy give -1 range to infantry.
13) Lack of attack power? SM infantry get -1 attack. They are more likely to lose in a battle between 2 infantry vs 1 militia.
14) Max units turkey can get on kiev turn 3(PD): 100-120.
15) Max units ukraine can get on kiev turn 3(SM): 100-105.
16) Spain can beat NC france rush on rome, however, it requires tanks. Some of the strats capable to do this are GC, LB and PD.
17) Max units italy can get on madrid turn 1(PD)(many vary in TeamGames): 35
18) Relentless Attack( RA) is the most used strategy of the game.
19) However, PD is the most used strat for 3vs3 eu+ extra cities game.
20) Some facts about cost-efficiently units:
GW militias: 4 attack / 30 cost = 1 attack per 7.5 cost. RA tanks: 9 attack / 100 cost = 0.9 attack per 11 cost.
GW marines: 7 attack / 70 cost = 1 attack per 10 cost.. SM bombers: 8 attack / 130 cost = 1 attack per 16.25 cost.
IMP infantry: 3 attack / 30 cost = 1 attack per 10 cost.. MOS marines: 8 attack / 110 cost= 1 attack per 13.75 cost.
IMP militias: 2 attack / 10 cost = 1 attack per 5 cost.. DS helicopter: 8 attack / 130 cost = 1 attack per 16.25 cost.
PD infantry: 4 attack / 50 cost = 1 attack per 12.5 cost.. HW marines: 6 attack / 70 cost = 1 attack per 15 cost.
Checking at the table, the IMP militias and GW marines are one of the most cost-efficiently units in the game, while the DS helicopters and SM bombers are at the worst cost-efficiently units.
21) While checking the battle log, you may notice there are some strange lines. They are stealth units! With some calculation, you can know their location:
This is what you see, some strange lines on Luanda and Luena. Even though you see the lines, in the last turn you didn't saw any unit in that location, and it doesn't look like Luena or Luanda got stacked with infantry, bombers, tanks... ect:
This is what your enemy see: Submarines and marines!
This trick can be used for know if the enemy have any submarine or marine. Although you can't see marines or submarines or stealth planes, if they enter on a city, the game register their lines.
With this information you can know there are stealth units going at your territory, so you can prepare a better defense.
Another example:
There is a line from Birmingham to Plymouth, then a strange line from nowhere attack Ireland!
In the middle of the sea, there is also a line that goes from nowhere to Plymouth. Check how the units in Plymouth are the same as in the last turn ( they are stealth, therefore, they don't appear in your screen).
Maneuver.
For a better use of unit's range.
For a better use of unit's range.
22) Chaining transports: With a simple trick you can avoid mixing transports and use them in the most efficient way possible.
Secure you have enough distance for move the sea transport.
Without click, put the mouse over the units. Click on the sea trans.
Now you can move the sea transport and leave the infantry drowned on water.
Take the infantries drowned with the other sea transport, and move on.When this trick is used effectively, the transports can travel far and perform efficiently. Chaining transports, you can go from Bilbao.... to Saint Petesburg!
Going from northern and Baltic sea I managed to get from Bilbao to Saint Petesburg chaining 4 sea transports. I also tried to go from Barcelona to Saint Petesburg, using 3 expensive Air Transports. The sea transport chair also allowed me to carry 20 troops with Naval Commander, while the Air Transport with SM can only carry 6 troops in total.
23) Is possible to drown land units on sea, and even make a wall.
24) Land units wall on sea are breakable by naval units under some circumstances, if you can aim to the center of the line of wall:
25) You can cross from UK mainland to Belfast without sea transport, following the next steps:
zoom in to the max
zoom out to the max 
26) A naval unit can take/jump to Glasgow from the other side of scotland.
27) There are some places where you can cross if you put the sea or air transport in a specific place. Some of theses "bridge" are:
-From UK to France:
-From greece to izmir:
28) You can cross naval units across a small patch of land, and land units across a small patch of water. Very useful for maneuver:
Brittany shortcut:
Zoom in to the max, looking to anchor the boat as far as possible.
Click. Game will automatically adjust the boat to land.
Try to move the boat, and anchor further on land.
You will notice how you took a small patch of land. 
Move on. Is useful to look to the smaller distance between water and land for sail easier.29) From izmir to Rome:
30) Sea transport on Sweden's lakes:
More shortcut's and patch are listened at the end of the topic.
31) " Every little range count". PD infantry can reach from rome to turin, if you cross a small patch of water:
Income & Reinforcements.
Default map economy, troops and related.
Default map economy, troops and related.
32) What determines the amount of reinforcements on a country? According to Cardinal Ouellet :
2.7 Million and + : 8 reinforcements
2.3 Million and + : 7 reinforcements
2.0 Million and + : 6 reinforcements
1.6 Million and + : 5 reinforcements
1.3 Million and + : 4 reinforcements
0.9 Million and + : 3 reinforcements
0.6 Million and + : 2 reinforcements
0.5 Million and - : 1 reinforcements
(Vienna = 2.3 million= 6 reinforcements.... but salt lake city 2.3 million =7reinforcements).
The original threat can be found here
[size=4]Whole World:
33)The amount of income available in the default map is 34,825:
34) Available reinforcements in the default map: 1943.
35) Tokyo, japan, is the richest city of the map, with 552 income. Followed by Moscow, russia (438 income) and Shangai, China: Southeast (436 income).
36) India hold the biggest reinforcements rate of the map: 107 reinforcements:
Followed up by Indonesia (44 reinforcements) and Turkey (39 reinforcements).
Europe:
Whole Europe+ economy:
37) Germany hold the biggest economy of europe+ extra cities, with a income of 651 + 130 whole country, followed by uk (600 income + 120 whole country) and france ( 593 income + 119 whole country).
38) Moscow is the richest city of Europe+, with 438 income. Followed up by Paris(405 income) and london(399 income).
39) Turkey have the highest Reinforcements from the map, with 39. Followed by UK( 28 reinforcements), spain(24 reinforcements), germany (23 reinforcements), France (22 reinforcements), Italy (21 reinforcements) and ukraine (19 reinforcements).
40) Balkans income and his influence zones (exept poland, moldova and greece)
41) Turkey's influence zone ( 69% of the money comes from turkey, romania and greece).
42) Scandinavia income:
Africa income and reinforcements rate.
Whole Africa economy:
43) South Africa hold the biggest economy from the continent, earning 231 total income + 46 from Whole country bonus ( 277 in total). Followed by Nigeria (177 + 35 income) and Egypt (153 + 31 income).
44) Lagos is the richest city of Africa, with 102 income. Followed up by Cairo (85 income) and Algiers (83 income).
45) The richest countries of Africa also hold the highest reinforcements rate of the continent. South Africa lead up with 33 reinforcements, followed up by Nigeria (21 reinforcements) and Egypt (20 reinforcements). Other countries that offer a high rate of reinforcements are Morocco (13 reinforcements) , Cameroon (12 reinforcements) and Kenya (10 reinforcements).
United States income and reinforcements rate.
Whole USA income:
46) USA: Atlantic is the richest part of the zone, with 668 income + 134 whole country bonus (802 in total). Followed up by USA: Pacific (641 income + 128 whole country bonus, 769 income in total) and USA: Great Lakes (579 income + 116 whole country bonus, 695 income in total).
47) Los Angeles is the richest city, with 366 income. Followed closely by New York (365 income), and on a 3rd place is Dallas (240 income).
48) Reinforcements:
USA: Pacific hold the highest reinforcements ratio of the zone, with 38. Followed up by USA: Atlantic (31 reinforcements) and USA: Great Lakes (26 reinforcements).
More Shortcut's
Here I will be posting some interesting shortcut's from Europe+ map:
49) Italy shortcut:
50)Brittany shortcut:
51) Denmark shortcut:
52) Is possible to cross from Athens to Rome without pass by Patras:
Help me add more curiousity! Fell free to post anything that can be interesting!
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ah ok. makes sense
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Unfortunately you did calculate with the critical included as part of the average attack. You assumed that attack values go up to 16, when they go up to 8, so you are acting like there is an equal chance of getting an attack including critical as there is of getting any other attack. This is blatantly wrong, and I don't know what I can show you that I haven't already to explain. You misunderstand the entire idea of critical. Secondly, whether the game accepts decimals or not DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE AVERAGE IS 4.5 FOR A TANK. The game may not deal decimal damage, but this is still the average. Take 10000 rolls or so and average them and you will find that the average attack is very close to 4.5. Whether it is possible for 4.5 to be dealt is entirely arbitrary. Thirdly, adding 5% critical will cause a rise to 4.9. I know it will either happen or not happen, which is why standard formulas are only reliable for large battles, and small battle could differ significantly, but if you averaged the rolls including critical you would get about 4.9 attack. I don't like adding it to the 4.5 because it is very random whether it happens and IS CALCULATED IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WAY TO STANDARD ATTACK. You cannot calculate standard attack and critical in 1 formula as they are entirely separate processes. Just try to get that into your head. Also, I'm not sure where I indicated I am focusing on small scale battles. Actually small battles are much more random, which is why it seems like you fail more, and the biggest battles would achieve results most in line with the formula.
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I'm sorry but you're still not understanding me. CRITICAL DOES NOT COME WITH ATTACK. THE TWO ARE ENTIRELY SEPERATE. There is no chance of getting a roll higher than 8. Absolutely no way that is possible. 8 IS THE MAXIMUM. A tank cannot ever roll 16 attack, or any number higher than 8. Critical is not rolls, and so you can't add them together. It can roll 8 attack + critical, which equals 16 when the two are added together. My average does not take any results above 8 because THE TANK CANNOT ROLL ABOVE 8. Lets say I take 20 rolls for a tank progressing equally through all the values: My rolls are: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4+critical,5,6,7,8,1,3,5,7 average these: (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+1+2+3+4+8(critical)+5+6+7+8+1+3+5+7)/20 = 4.8 Pretty close huh? Ofcourse in reality the rolls would be much more random than this, but I can't simulate this very well. So unless in really big battles the number would differ further than 0.1
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Ends is correct clovis, that is how critical works when calculating an average damage value with critical factored in.
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meh you 2 got me completely confused about criticals  .Congratulations. Can someone clearly explain what critical attack is? My understanding is something along the lines. 1 tank when attacking has 8 attack(actually attack depends on rolls). If critical gets counted it will be 3 more( since critical for tank is 3). I agree the max attack of tanks can't be more than 8 it can be max 11 because of the criticals. Just post as clearly as possible your idea of criticals.
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Umm then why critical is 3 for tanks ? What does the 3 actually do ?
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Max attack = Max roll. Criticals are not part of it. Whatever you are talking about you can't calculate max attack + criticals using the formula you used.
Where has this idea about not being right when larger numbers are included come from? Nothing is going to be perfectly accurate, but larger battles would yield much more accurate results than smaller battles. What I said was really large battles would have the most accurate results, if you read my post again.
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I'ts very simple. My tank has a max attack of 8 and a critical chance of 5%. When a critical hit is dealt it adds the max attack of the tank to the current roll. So, say I rolled 4 attack, I then have a 5% chance of adding a critical hit to that, which would give me 8 extra attack. Therefore the total attack would be roll+critical = 4+8 = 12 attack.
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Clovis, critical is not attack. Critical is derived from attack, but is calculated in an entirely different way. If you want you can call max roll what I call max attack, but they are just names. Sorry if I have misled you, but I thought you understood that the attack is the roll, and the critical is something else. It would be confusing for me to say max attack includes critical because it doesn't. Tell me where you see 16 here: 
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So I guess what clovis is trying to say is max attack of tank can be 8 and critical would give it extra 8 so its 16 total.
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Yes, he was, but the way he calculates it is entirely wrong
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When I say attack I am excluding critical hits. Therefore the attack of a unit = the roll it has. I am doing this so you understand that critical is not attack. I admit I have refered to attack as max attack which could be confusing, but that's just my choice of words.
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You know i dont support this thread. What took some years for people to develop and notice and create, u just told every (noob/pro/etc.) player in this game. Now every new player can tryhard to play like the good old ones... U just teach secrets of many clans/people to all of aw.... such a shame
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meh i wouldnt worry, only a handful of new players would take the time to sit down read and comprehend this thread, and its those players who will grow to be good and pick up all this stuff anyway. anyway if i was a new player seeking aw gameplay info and tips and tricks, a thread called "curiosities about atwar" wouldnt be somewhere i would think to look. anyway improving the quality of new players coming to aw can only be a good thing
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Yeh the name is pretty wrong, idk if clovis knows what curiousity means.
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How many of you did learn how to play from the forums anyway? ...tricks, tips and ...statistical analasys of units xD ...i dont know shit about that, i screamed at clan forum the other day asking "HOW MUCH INF CAN TAKE PARIS???" xD
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Who cares. Just rush. <3
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Noooo, rushin is for noobz and autistic 1v1 farmers 
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Lmmfao, sarcasm?
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It really does change things if you understand the implications. Most people think 2 inf have the same attack as 1 tank.
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The name aint wrong. I've made this post for post and discuss about facts or curiousity about atWar. Of couse, many tricks are also a fact - hence why I posted them here. The idea of this post is not to be a trick guide, but fill it with curiousity insteat.
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Do you know what curiousity means?
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Sharing info accelerates everyone's development. If we all had to learn everything without building on what others spent years creating, we'd likely all be huddling in a cave trying to spark a fire. ==== The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. Maximilien Robespierre ...
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They changed SM? I remember it used to nerf infantry critical chance by two, now it lowers infantry attack. Wow didn't notice
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I always thought it to be an arabic origin of saying. You pretty much summed most of the valuable information. Perhaps you need to advertise it more often on global, so players who haven't seen it yet can come and add up new questions/infos
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