More Power to Mapmakers

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:50

I just banned Swash because Swash called me a fag on the forums, and that is against my map rules that I just created.

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 20.01.2015 at 07:19

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 20.01.2015 at 07:09

How come every thread with 300+ posts has goblin included? XAXAXAXA
Trying to steal my dramaqueen trone goblin?

Dont be silly Waffel ...how else would it reach 300+ posts without me

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 09:41

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 19.01.2015 at 09:26

No, you can't ban from maps for personal reasons, but you are free to ban people from your games, or gtfo of atWar since you agreed to follow the rules of atWar when you signed up. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, but one of the rules are that you can't ban for personal reasons.

Define me a personal reason?

Me being an asshole is not justifiable ...but if someone tells me "fuck off you retarded piece of fuckin shit i hope your mother dies from fuckin cancer you fuckin idiot!!!!!"

I ...have to let this person, play on the fruits of my hard work? Who gave this person rights to insult me and enjoy my work?


I want that in the rules aswell, rules that mods didnt give, but insulted everyone with pathetic 23. that they made ...when Columna said they are working on rules i thougth they will give us rules too follow.

What we got is: "fuck you, we made a rule that give us the ability to decide what the rule is". ...and first sentence "map makers can ban anyone bla bla ..." should make it fine.

Dont make me laugh.

Lainaa:

Define me a personal reason?

Lainaa:

Me being an asshole is not justifiable ...but if someone tells me "fuck off you retarded piece of fuckin shit i hope your mother dies from fuckin cancer you fuckin idiot!!!!!"

I ...have to let this person, play on the fruits of my hard work? Who gave this person rights to insult me and enjoy my work?

Lainaa:

Dont make me laugh.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 09:35

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 19.01.2015 at 09:30

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 09:26

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 19.01.2015 at 08:59

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 08:53

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 19.01.2015 at 08:40

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> showing me that poor made rule that isnt actually giving map makers the reasons on what is considered offence on which they can ban someone
> rules made so they can be interpreted widely by does who enforce them

I hope this makes it clearer for you.

Offenses:

Leaving early
Breaking map rules

Mapmakers can't ban:

For personal reasons
For breaking rules not listed on map

Also players are innocent until proven guilty.

And it doesn't matter if you think the rules are bad, the moderators are allowed to set rules.
So you either follow them or quit.

so i make a map and the rule is that you cant talk bad about my map or my skills, its a map rule, is it allowed to ban a person who disrespects my map? according to mods it is

You will have to ask the mods, as it is their job to interpret the rules and enforce them as they think is best for the game.

no no no no no, you can not say that atwar runs on a good government where the mods make the rules, then interpret the rules then execute the rules, if mods do not make the rules clear they can not interpret it to their advantage, since they have total control over the rules they should just simply make clear statements and not leave it for interpretation because I will find any loophole they leave

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 20.01.2015 at 08:58

Lainaa:

Define me a personal reason?

Anything not directly related to the game there and then.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 20.01.2015 at 09:22

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 20.01.2015 at 08:58

Lainaa:

Define me a personal reason?

Anything not directly related to the game there and then.

Exactly ...so if a person trashes my map on AW in public i would say that is game related and i have a reason to ban that player.

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 21:36

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:50

I just banned Swash because Swash called me a fag on the forums, and that is against my map rules that I just created.

you are a fag and i have every right in the world to call you one.Its my right as a free person of atwar.and this right here is freedom of speech.Banning me for calling you a fag?nah ill be damned if i ever support your facist demands.

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 21:36

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:50

I just banned Swash because Swash called me a fag on the forums, and that is against my map rules that I just created.

you are a fag and i have every right in the world to call you one.Its my right as a free person of atwar.and this right here is freedom of speech.Banning me for calling you a fag?nah ill be damned if i ever support your facist demands.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 21:36

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:50

I just banned Swash because Swash called me a fag on the forums, and that is against my map rules that I just created.

you are a fag and i have every right in the world to call you one.Its my right as a free person of atwar.and this right here is freedom of speech.Banning me for calling you a fag?nah ill be damned if i ever support your facist demands.

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:20

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

If nobody wants my maps, then they shouldn't care if I ban them from them.

Kirjoittanut Fockmeeard, 20.01.2015 at 11:54

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:20

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

If nobody wants my maps, then they shouldn't care if I ban them from them.

Sure, scenario sp farmers like your map. But the mods and a large part of the community don't care for it which is why you not making any more maps is an empty threat. Those scenario farmers will move on to the world map when you and the rest stop making maps and they will learn proper game mechanics and how to 3v3. Atwar will continue to live on. The rank 3-7 noobs that like your maps will be pissed, sure. But they will move on or leave the game and all the new members will not even know they existed so they will fall in love with some other map.

Is funny how nobody on atwar other than the mapmakers themselves seem to care that all these maps went missing. Guess everybody can deal with it after all.

The only thing that will come of this 'strike' is that there will be a written statement that mods have full control of revoking bans that you must agree to when you buy premium features that allow you to make maps.

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 20.01.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Socrates would be pulling his hair, hearing of your interpretation of freedom of speech and democracy

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Thanks dear, my cat is already crying

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:18

Kirjoittanut Fockmeeard, 20.01.2015 at 11:54

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:20

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

If nobody wants my maps, then they shouldn't care if I ban them from them.

Sure, scenario sp farmers like your map. But the mods and a large part of the community don't care for it which is why you not making any more maps is an empty threat. Those scenario farmers will move on to the world map when you and the rest stop making maps and they will learn proper game mechanics and how to 3v3. Atwar will continue to live on. The rank 3-7 noobs that like your maps will be pissed, sure. But they will move on or leave the game and all the new members will not even know they existed so they will fall in love with some other map.

Is funny how nobody on atwar other than the mapmakers themselves seem to care that all these maps went missing. Guess everybody can deal with it after all.

The only thing that will come of this 'strike' is that there will be a written statement that mods have full control of revoking bans that you must agree to when you buy premium features that allow you to make maps.

My most popular map is not a scenario. Neither is my second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, or eighth.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:20

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 20.01.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Socrates would be pulling his hair, hearing of your interpretation of freedom of speech and democracy

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Thanks dear, my cat is already crying

I don't care if Socrates doesn't appove. Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to say what you like without censorship. It doesn't free you from repercussions by individuals who won't let you use their property.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 20.01.2015 at 12:37

Then that's not real FoS, FoS is stating your opinion and maybe other things, free from punishment.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Kirjoittanut Guest, 20.01.2015 at 12:37

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:20

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 20.01.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Socrates would be pulling his hair, hearing of your interpretation of freedom of speech and democracy

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Thanks dear, my cat is already crying

I don't care if Socrates doesn't appove. Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to say what you like without censorship. It doesn't free you from repercussions by individuals who won't let you use their property.

Then that's not real FoS, FoS is stating your opinion and maybe other things, free from punishment.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 20.01.2015 at 12:37

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:20

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 20.01.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Socrates would be pulling his hair, hearing of your interpretation of freedom of speech and democracy

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Thanks dear, my cat is already crying

I don't care if Socrates doesn't appove. Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to say what you like without censorship. It doesn't free you from repercussions by individuals who won't let you use their property.

Then that's not real FoS, FoS is stating your opinion and maybe other things, free from punishment.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 13:06

Kirjoittanut Guest, 20.01.2015 at 12:37

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:20

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 20.01.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Socrates would be pulling his hair, hearing of your interpretation of freedom of speech and democracy

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Thanks dear, my cat is already crying

I don't care if Socrates doesn't appove. Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to say what you like without censorship. It doesn't free you from repercussions by individuals who won't let you use their property.

Then that's not real FoS, FoS is stating your opinion and maybe other things, free from punishment.

Free from government punishment. For example, if you trash talk me, and I in turn stop talking to you, that could be views as "punishment", but it doesn't violate your right to free speech.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 13:08

Kirjoittanut Guest, 20.01.2015 at 12:37

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:20

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 20.01.2015 at 11:50

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:30

Someone doesn't understand freedom of speech. You have the right to not be silenced, but organizations haven he right to stop you from using their property if they don't like what you say, as long as you are not being forcefully censored.

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:41

Kentucky is basically right here, you can say what you want and I can choose if I want you to say it in my maps, which I chose that you do not need to say that in my map because it is offensive

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 11.01.2015 at 23:23

except that we don't need to give you proof of anything, its our maps and we issue the bans

Socrates would be pulling his hair, hearing of your interpretation of freedom of speech and democracy

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 20.01.2015 at 11:39

Banned for calling me a fag.

Thanks dear, my cat is already crying

I don't care if Socrates doesn't appove. Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to say what you like without censorship. It doesn't free you from repercussions by individuals who won't let you use their property.

Then that's not real FoS, FoS is stating your opinion and maybe other things, free from punishment.

Another example. If you are working for a company and you leak secrets of the company or trash talk it, you would be fired. That's not violating freedom of speech, that is completely reasonable.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 13:08

Another example. If you are working for a company and you leak secrets of the company or trash talk it, you would be fired. That's not violating freedom of speech, that is completely reasonable.

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 20.01.2015 at 09:28

How would that be directly related to the hosted game?

This is my opinion:

Ban for anything happening in chat is a personal reason.

Anything that happends on the actual map, and stuff like allying and sending money is game related.

Kirjoittanut notserral, 20.01.2015 at 13:01

Kirjoittanut Guest, 20.01.2015 at 12:37

Then that's not real FoS, FoS is stating your opinion and maybe other things, free from punishment.

Nope, it's freedom from censorship. And other laws limit what you can and cannot say: i.e. hate speech is not protected by freedom of speech.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 12:20

Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to say what you like without censorship. It doesn't free you from repercussions by individuals who won't let you use their property.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 20.01.2015 at 13:37

Your freedom to swing your fists stops at the other man's jaw

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 20.01.2015 at 13:37

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 20.01.2015 at 09:28

How would that be directly related to the hosted game?

This is my opinion:

Ban for anything happening in chat is a personal reason.

Anything that happends on the actual map, and stuff like allying and sending money is game related.

So a player says "fuck Swashes piece of shit map, dont join that!" ...is not game related.

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 20.01.2015 at 09:20

Kirjoittanut Pinheiro, 19.01.2015 at 18:45

Kirjoittanut Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Kirjoittanut KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.

Guess what: nobody asked you to make one to begin with.

If nobody wants my maps, then they shouldn't care if I ban them from them.