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27.03.2015 - 06:45
Chocobanalol
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Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.
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27.03.2015 - 06:59
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27.03.2015 - 07:03
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27.03.2015 - 17:16
It would be nice idea if it was realistic and fair.

But it would make people would farm and would duel more low ranks etc etc etc just for getting a big peak elo that would be not realistic.

Let´s show too the peak reps, you could see how everybody is farmnig reps from the next day.
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28.03.2015 - 09:23
Chocobanalol
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Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 27.03.2015 at 17:16

It would be nice idea if it was realistic and fair.

But it would make people would farm and would duel more low ranks etc etc etc just for getting a big peak elo that would be not realistic.

Let´s show too the peak reps, you could see how everybody is farmnig reps from the next day.


Are you trying to troll me? I answered so often to your posts and asked you to read what I wrote on this topic before. This is my a last attempt, I will quote it for you:

Kirjoittanut Guest, 14.03.2015 at 19:00

Elo:
Every big game nowadays has ranking systems for their competitive game modes, most use the Elo rating system, which was also recently introduced for clan wars in atWar. The Elo rating system calculates the relative skill levels of players, in a way that rewards actual skill rather than simply beating thousands of noobs. I will give a short overview: Imagine two values, one is your Elo-number, while the other is the abstract notion of your 'real skill level'. When you start playing your Elo-number is the standardized 'average'. If you beat a player, you gain a certain amount of points, and your opponent loses the equal amount. This means the 'average' will always stay the same, which in turn means that relative player strength can always be measured by comparing it against the mean. If you imagine a static real skill level in form of a numerical value, then the more opponents you play the more your Elo-number will approach this value. Farming in this system is only possible by win trading. What people call 'farming Elo' at the moment is simply playing low ranked players who have less experience. In reality both Elo-numbers approach the 'real value' though. If you take skilled players like Chess or Laochra for example, imagine their real skill level at 2000 rather than 1497 and 1565. The current #1 bluecher2 would never reach this number in reality, but rather stagnate at some number like 1750.
Now that i have made my case for Elo, if you still want you can get more detailed information on the ranking system, on the according page on Wikipedia.
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28.03.2015 - 10:29
I´m not trolling you, instead, u looks like don´t want to admit what i´m talking about.

I know how elo system works, elo is known in lot of games, and it becomes from chess long time ago and the system is basic and easy.

And i repeat to you, farming is possible when a player with high elo, duel a noob or low rank who probably does not have skills or even doesn´t know what is a duel or elo points.

U still didn´t answer my question, what would u think if i had 1500 elo and i would be dueling low ranks, "IS THAT FARMING OR NOT"?

What would u think if i make an alt and was dueling ranks 2 and 3 with my experience of a rank 11 or 10 or 12 and i was in the second position in the top list elo players? "IS THAT ALSO FARMING OR NOT"?

How do i need to explain that? Are you a bit short of mind or what happen to you?

Are u for example an elo farmer with this alt "YES OR NOT"?

Just answer is not very difficult, but surely you won´t answer this question and you will say that my english is horrible and u can´t barelly understand it or this post is so long and it takes half an hour to read it.

Your words: (What people call 'farming Elo' at the moment is simply playing low ranked players who have less experience)

It´s not simply, especially when players do it on porpuse and cause we are not talking simply to duel a low rank, u can be rank 10 and beat a rank 8, you can be rank 8 and beat a rank 7 that´s not farming,farming is when you are rank 8 9 10 11 12 and you are dueling ranks 3 4 5 ... or incluse ranks 8 or 9 that you know perfectly they are rp players or his elo is 850 and you know perfectly he is so bad and he´s not on your level ( that is supossed why you are asking for the setting range elo in duels), SO MAN, don´t duel him.

Do u imagine Capablanca dueling childs in secundary school and increasing his elo basically with a 5% of his skills? "IS THAT FARMING OR NOT"?

In your opinion and goblin opinion and more players opinion surely no cause he´s free for dueling whatever he wants and it´s the ranks 3 problem cause they want to join.

And the last one thing, do u really imagine Capablanca doing that and besides that, also asking to the chess federation for a setting elo range for his chess games?

Come on man, don´t go to that school to farm the childs.


To be fair, there should be something similar that you are asking about, but like leagues.

For example, posibilities for dueling only by ranks levels ranges or elo points ranges.

A rank 12 never could duel a rank 5, or rank 8 against 3, or 1500 elo player couldn´t duel a less than 1200 1100 or whatever amount of elo points.

That´s the only way where elo points would be realistic.

In that case your problems will dissapear if u really wanted for it.
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28.03.2015 - 10:34
Chocobanalol
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Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 28.03.2015 at 10:29

U still didn´t answer my question, what would u think if i had 1500 elo and i would be dueling low ranks, "IS THAT FARMING OR NOT"?

What would u think if i make an alt and was dueling ranks 2 and 3 with my experience of a rank 11 or 10 or 12 and i was in the second position in the top list elo players? "IS THAT ALSO FARMING OR NOT"?

Are u for example an elo farmer with this alt "YES OR NOT"?


No it is not farming, for the reasons outlined above. If you still want to argue send me a personal message.
The reason i'm asking you to do this is because your argument is completely irrelevant in this thread. Send me a pm if you want to argue, do not enter all my threads and try to attack me personally. This is a forum for ideas, not for you calling me a farmer. (With farming not even being possible.)
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28.03.2015 - 11:06
Surely is not farming?

So making this alt account and dueling ranks 2 or 3 only with the porpuse of increasing your elo when u really are a high rank or medium rank and they have no idea about the game is not farming?

If u prefer we can call it cheat, so it´s the same.

I told u yesterday man you should give example to the new players with your behaviour like one of the older players here registered and u are not doing.

And i´m talking about your thread, disagree with your idea cause it´s really irrelevant and it has no sense when it´s asked by an alt who is farming other players and his main is doing the same

How much double-dealing you have man.

Sorry for telling the true.
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28.03.2015 - 11:15
Chocobanalol
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Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 28.03.2015 at 11:06

Surely is not farming?

So making this alt account and dueling ranks 2 or 3 only with the porpuse of increasing your elo when u really are a high rank or medium rank and they have no idea about the game is not farming?

No it is not. It is approaching the abstract skill value with the number shown in game. Since the account is mine it will of course 'approach' my level of skill. The mistake you make is to confuse the notion of rank, which really only reflects the time spend in game, with the skill of a player, represented in Elo rating.

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 28.03.2015 at 11:06

And i´m talking about your thread, disagree with your idea cause it´s really irrelevant and it has no sense when it´s asked by an alt who is farming other players and his main is doing the same

You disagree with the idea because it is me who uttered it. This is exactly what you shouldn't do, try to separate the idea from the person.
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28.03.2015 - 11:25
I think that you are who is a bit short of mind man.

I have told you thatat like 3 or 4 times, i think it would be a nice idea (being realistic) if it was fair and should have been asked by a fair player and everybody would use it properly but i´m disagree cause the own player who is asking for it is a farmer and cause there are lot of farmes who would go on doing the same.

That is the reason cause i tod several times NO SENSE in this petition.
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28.03.2015 - 11:35
Kirjoittanut Guest, 28.03.2015 at 11:15

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 28.03.2015 at 11:06

Surely is not farming?

So making this alt account and dueling ranks 2 or 3 only with the porpuse of increasing your elo when u really are a high rank or medium rank and they have no idea about the game is not farming?

No it is not. It is approaching the abstract skill value with the number shown in game. Since the account is mine it will of course 'approach' my level of skill. The mistake you make is to confuse the notion of rank, which really only reflects the time spend in game, with the skill of a player, represented in Elo rating.



Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 28.03.2015 at 11:06

And i´m talking about your thread, disagree with your idea cause it´s really irrelevant and it has no sense when it´s asked by an alt who is farming other players and his main is doing the same

You disagree with the idea because it is me who uttered it. This is exactly what you shouldn't do, try to separate the idea from the person.
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28.03.2015 - 11:36
No it is not. It is approaching the abstract skill value with the number shown in game. Since the account is mine it will of course 'approach' my level of skill. The mistake you make is to confuse the notion of rank, which really only reflects the time spend in game, with the skill of a player, represented in Elo rating.



OMG, this is the last thing i expected to read about you man.

I don´t confuse anything man, your new account reflects that u are rank 2 or 3 or 4 but that´s not the time that "you", and not your "supossed" account spent in the game.

You have spent about 4 years lol and your skills are 4 or 5 times better than thoose players you are dueling, players with a mont or weeks in the game, (THAT´S CALLED FARMING SO HARD)

So please don´t try to convince and/or manipulate me with your words that we both know perfectly what are we talking about.

I can´t read more stupid words and no sense in them.

Sorry man, go on, you are right.
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28.03.2015 - 12:59
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28.03.2015 - 15:05
Stryko
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Nice ruining the thread with your spanish
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28.03.2015 - 16:01
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This is not a spanish forum. Please proceed with on-topic discussion in english.
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28.03.2015 - 16:43
Kirjoittanut Guest, 28.03.2015 at 15:05

Nice ruining the thread with your spanish

Spanish never ruins anything

It actually makes forum much prettier
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28.03.2015 - 18:15
Kirjoittanut RaulPB, 28.03.2015 at 16:43

Kirjoittanut Guest, 28.03.2015 at 15:05

Nice ruining the thread with your spanish

Spanish never ruins anything

It actually makes forum much prettier


i agree spanish hottest language
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28.03.2015 - 18:50
Chocobanalol
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I edited the original post to include the suggestion of a list of the highest Elo ratings ever.
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28.03.2015 - 19:08
Chocobanalol
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Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 28.03.2015 at 18:52

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=11039

Not automated, not up to date, forum post. I would like it to be somewhere in the playerlist tab.
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28.03.2015 - 19:12
Kirjoittanut Guest, 28.03.2015 at 19:08

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 28.03.2015 at 18:52

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=11039

Not automated, not up to date, forum post. I would like it to be somewhere in the playerlist tab.

its fucking up to date
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28.03.2015 - 19:28
 Htin
Kirjoittanut Guest, 27.03.2015 at 06:45

Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.

I want to know who you are
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28.03.2015 - 19:30
Chocobanalol
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Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 28.03.2015 at 19:12

Kirjoittanut Guest, 28.03.2015 at 19:08

Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 28.03.2015 at 18:52

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=11039

Not automated, not up to date, forum post. I would like it to be somewhere in the playerlist tab.

its fucking up to date

Bluecher is an easy counterexample. Also it says last updated March 2013. This was two years ago and is NOT up to date.
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29.03.2015 - 09:36
Kirjoittanut Htin, 28.03.2015 at 19:28

Kirjoittanut Guest, 27.03.2015 at 06:45

Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.

I want to know who you are



It´s not vey difficult to know it, but i still don´t understand why is he hidding besides his alt instead writting with his main (or mains we don´t know)
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29.03.2015 - 09:38
 Htin
Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:36

Kirjoittanut Htin, 28.03.2015 at 19:28

Kirjoittanut Guest, 27.03.2015 at 06:45

Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.

I want to know who you are



It´s not vey difficult to know it.

who is this hacker, ivan?
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29.03.2015 - 09:40
Kirjoittanut Htin, 29.03.2015 at 09:38

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:36

Kirjoittanut Htin, 28.03.2015 at 19:28

Kirjoittanut Guest, 27.03.2015 at 06:45

Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.

I want to know who you are



It´s not vey difficult to know it.

who is this hacker, ivan?



What are you talking about?

What hacker?

What did u mean with "I want to know who are you"? This player?
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29.03.2015 - 09:43
 Htin
Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:40

Kirjoittanut Htin, 29.03.2015 at 09:38

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:36

Kirjoittanut Htin, 28.03.2015 at 19:28

Kirjoittanut Guest, 27.03.2015 at 06:45

Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.

I want to know who you are



It´s not vey difficult to know it.

who is this hacker, ivan?



What are you talking about?

What hacker?

What did u mean with "I want to know who are you"? This player?

He play italy and knows all your moves
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29.03.2015 - 09:46
Kirjoittanut Htin, 29.03.2015 at 09:43

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:40

Kirjoittanut Htin, 29.03.2015 at 09:38

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:36

Kirjoittanut Htin, 28.03.2015 at 19:28

Kirjoittanut Guest, 27.03.2015 at 06:45

Show the highest Elo rating ever reached by a player in his profile.
Added: It would also be nice to have some sort of 'eternal best' list, where the 10 highest Elo ratings in the history of atWar are shown, with the names of the respective players.

I want to know who you are



It´s not vey difficult to know it.

who is this hacker, ivan?



What are you talking about?

What hacker?

What did u mean with "I want to know who are you"? This player?

He play italy and knows all your moves



So why do you ask?
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29.03.2015 - 09:47
Kirjoittanut Htin, 29.03.2015 at 09:43

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:40

What are you talking about?

What hacker?

What did u mean with "I want to know who are you"? This player?

He play italy and knows all your moves

OMG, nero haxxor!

btw, maybe try playing more unpredictable if he knows all your moves. i recommend training with someone like bonker
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29.03.2015 - 09:51
Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 29.03.2015 at 09:47

Kirjoittanut Htin, 29.03.2015 at 09:43

Kirjoittanut hormigaatomica, 29.03.2015 at 09:40

What are you talking about?

What hacker?

What did u mean with "I want to know who are you"? This player?

He play italy and knows all your moves

OMG, nero haxxor!

btw, maybe try playing more unpredictable if he knows all your moves. i recommend training with someone like bonker



No, he´s not nero.
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