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25.01.2015 - 07:04
Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

They will have to use a physical camera or phone to record with good quality video.
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25.01.2015 - 07:29
No SS nice simple and easy for any one to do
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25.01.2015 - 10:19
Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 25.01.2015 at 07:29

No SS nice simple and easy for any one to do


You want to know something else thats nice and easy?

Faking screenshots. (You thought I was gonna say your mother right)
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25.01.2015 - 20:11
Or we allow map makers to ban without proof like we should have been doing the whole time
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26.01.2015 - 02:43
I think that having to provide video evidence is going to be too much hassle for the map-makers.

The current system works fine, methinks.
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26.01.2015 - 05:49
Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 25.01.2015 at 20:11

Or we allow map makers to ban without proof like we should have been doing the whole time

Or how about no.
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26.01.2015 - 07:35
Kirjoittanut International, 26.01.2015 at 02:43

I think that having to provide video evidence is going to be too much hassle for the map-makers.

The current system works fine, methinks.


No, it doesn't.

Some retard mapmakers are faking evidence to ban people they don't like.
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26.01.2015 - 07:52
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:50

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

I'm not going to go out of my way to download some new software that I've never heard of before.. Too much effort and takes too much time. Unless Atwar adds some video capturing software then well yeah you got my answer.. no.


Takes 5 minutes to install.......

And when you want to record, just push a button.
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26.01.2015 - 07:54
For some autists, the world is just not enough.
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26.01.2015 - 07:54
Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

Definitely a very bad idea.
Recording games requires resources (bandwidth and memory and processor) that would mean that some PCs would get slow and laggy.
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26.01.2015 - 07:56
Kirjoittanut Columna Durruti, 26.01.2015 at 07:54

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

Definitely a very bad idea.
Recording games requires resources (bandwidth and memory and processor) that would mean that some PCs would get slow and laggy.



Ok, so how do you suggest we can stop fake SSs getting used as evidence for ban?


Recording video is the only viable solution.

And anyway, how much fucking memory and processing power do you need to record 10 second video?
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26.01.2015 - 08:00
Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 07:35

No, it doesn't.

Some retard mapmakers are faking evidence to ban people they don't like.

Can you provide evidence of this? If you can, why don't you go talk to the moderators? If you cannot, then how do you expect me to believe you?
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26.01.2015 - 08:13
Kirjoittanut International, 26.01.2015 at 08:00

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 07:35

No, it doesn't.

Some retard mapmakers are faking evidence to ban people they don't like.

Can you provide evidence of this? If you can, why don't you go talk to the moderators? If you cannot, then how do you expect me to believe you?


http://oi61.tinypic.com/330zpc5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sFdu2eP.png

Both of these were faked by 2 reasonably well known mapmakers.

The second one was the first SS that was faked against me, but I got the mods to unban me and punish the one who did it.

The first one I am still banned for, and I have tried talking to the mods, but they are useless now.
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26.01.2015 - 08:14
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:57

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 07:52

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:50

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

I'm not going to go out of my way to download some new software that I've never heard of before.. Too much effort and takes too much time. Unless Atwar adds some video capturing software then well yeah you got my answer.. no.


Takes 5 minutes to install.......

And when you want to record, just push a button.

Hmmm no thanks, taking screenshots work fine for me.


Ok, so how to you propose we stop mapmakers from faking evidence?

My solution is the only viable solution.
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26.01.2015 - 08:14
Kirjoittanut Tundy, 26.01.2015 at 07:54

For some autists, the world is just not enough.


Like you.
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26.01.2015 - 08:20
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:18

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:14

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:57

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 07:52

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:50

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

I'm not going to go out of my way to download some new software that I've never heard of before.. Too much effort and takes too much time. Unless Atwar adds some video capturing software then well yeah you got my answer.. no.


Takes 5 minutes to install.......

And when you want to record, just push a button.

Hmmm no thanks, taking screenshots work fine for me.


Ok, so how to you propose we stop mapmakers from faking evidence?

My solution is the only viable solution.

I've never seen this before, Didn't know it was a problem until you stated it as one.


Because it haven't happened to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others.

I have been banned for fake screenshots. TWICE.
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26.01.2015 - 08:31
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:24

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:20

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:18

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:14

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:57

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 07:52

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:50

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

I'm not going to go out of my way to download some new software that I've never heard of before.. Too much effort and takes too much time. Unless Atwar adds some video capturing software then well yeah you got my answer.. no.


Takes 5 minutes to install.......

And when you want to record, just push a button.

Hmmm no thanks, taking screenshots work fine for me.


Ok, so how to you propose we stop mapmakers from faking evidence?

My solution is the only viable solution.

I've never seen this before, Didn't know it was a problem until you stated it as one.


Because it haven't happened to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others.

I have been banned for fake screenshots. TWICE.

By who ? and how can you prove they're fake..


First by Adog, and then by Tunder.

The one Adog photoshopped was a very bad photoshop, so I just had to zoom in on it to spot all the errors.
Tunder has put more time in his editing, so there were not any visual errors I could see, but I tried arguing that the image metadata showed that it had been edited in Paint.net, but the mods didn't listen.

But it seems like you already forgot why I suggested this. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to detect a decently photoshopped screenshot, just google it, everyone will agree.
It is much harder to edit a video if there are stuff happening on the screen.
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26.01.2015 - 08:39
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:35

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:31

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:24

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:20

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:18

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:14

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:57

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 07:52

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 07:50

Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 25.01.2015 at 07:04

Make mapmakers record video evidence instead of screenshot, because it is way to fucking easy to fake a decent screenshot.

There are plenty of free screen-recording software on the internet, and you can use your phone if you for some reason can't install it.

I'm not going to go out of my way to download some new software that I've never heard of before.. Too much effort and takes too much time. Unless Atwar adds some video capturing software then well yeah you got my answer.. no.


Takes 5 minutes to install.......

And when you want to record, just push a button.

Hmmm no thanks, taking screenshots work fine for me.


Ok, so how to you propose we stop mapmakers from faking evidence?

My solution is the only viable solution.

I've never seen this before, Didn't know it was a problem until you stated it as one.


Because it haven't happened to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others.

I have been banned for fake screenshots. TWICE.

By who ? and how can you prove they're fake..


First by Adog, and then by Tunder.

The one Adog photoshopped was a very bad photoshop, so I just had to zoom in on it to spot all the errors.
Tunder has put more time in his editing, so there were not any visual errors I could see, but I tried arguing that the image metadata showed that it had been edited in Paint.net, but the mods didn't listen.

But it seems like you already forgot why I suggested this. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to detect a decently photoshopped screenshot, just google it, everyone will agree.
It is much harder to edit a video if there are stuff happening on the screen.

Hmmm.. I'm far better at editing videos than I am with photoshop, I could easily fake a video. I bet others could too.. Consider free video software you find will use smart re sample you wont have to use such detail as the person wont be able to analyze as he/she would with a picture.. This is all just sounds like a bad idea


One would have to do stuff on the screen like scrolling the chat up and down and opening a webpage and type something in chat.

Would you be able to edit it without it being noticed?
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26.01.2015 - 09:09
Wow, too much replies. Please don't mind me not reading them.

Just go and make an alt
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26.01.2015 - 09:12
Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 26.01.2015 at 09:09

Wow, too much replies. Please don't mind me not reading them.

Just go and make an alt


This is more about principle really.
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26.01.2015 - 11:31
Kirjoittanut clovis1122, 26.01.2015 at 09:09

Wow, too much replies. Please don't mind me not reading them.

Just go and make an alt

This is why most of my maps are played with rank limits, if swash wants to make 10 accounts and get them all to rank 5 that is clearly enough proof for an IP ban by the mods
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26.01.2015 - 11:32
Swash, the idea of video taping our games just because you dont like screenshots is a stupid idea, there are many ways to fabricate a video also and I think that now you are just trying to be an idiot in front of the whole community. You dislike that map makers have ban-lists, so dont play custom maps, play 3v3 on EU+ and ignore our part of atwar.
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26.01.2015 - 12:38
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:46

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 25.01.2015 at 20:11

Or we allow map makers to ban without proof like we should have been doing the whole time




unfunny ripoff is unfunny
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26.01.2015 - 12:52
>Making a video instead of a screenshot

I've heard a lot of a retarded things in my life, but this goes up there near the top.
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26.01.2015 - 14:55
Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 26.01.2015 at 11:32

Swash, the idea of video taping our games just because you dont like screenshots is a stupid idea, there are many ways to fabricate a video also and I think that now you are just trying to be an idiot in front of the whole community. You dislike that map makers have ban-lists, so dont play custom maps, play 3v3 on EU+ and ignore our part of atwar.


I don't play any of you or Tunder's maps, in fact, the only map belonging to autist mapmakers was ww1.

Ok, if it is so easy to edit a screen recorded video, I have changed the suggestion requiring you to record with a physical camera or phone.
You will have to show the screen from different angels, and do stuff on the screen proving its real.
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26.01.2015 - 14:56
Kirjoittanut Skittzophrenic, 26.01.2015 at 12:52

>Making a video instead of a screenshot

I've heard a lot of a retarded things in my life, but this goes up there near the top.


Alternative is to remove banlist completely.
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26.01.2015 - 18:30
Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 08:13

http://oi61.tinypic.com/330zpc5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sFdu2eP.png

Both of these were faked by 2 reasonably well known mapmakers.

The second one was the first SS that was faked against me, but I got the mods to unban me and punish the one who did it.

The first one I am still banned for, and I have tried talking to the mods, but they are useless now.

Can you provide evidence that these were faked?

Right now, what I see is that you're inciting this huge mess on nothing except unfounded claims.
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26.01.2015 - 23:28
It's still possible for them to take a photoshopped screenshot or video, make it full screen, and then record it with a physical camera. Requiring a physical recording will just make banlists less accessible, and won't help to prevent fraud, if any fraud does exist.
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26.01.2015 - 23:38
Kirjoittanut Milton Friedman, 26.01.2015 at 14:55

Kirjoittanut Quantum027, 26.01.2015 at 11:32

Swash, the idea of video taping our games just because you dont like screenshots is a stupid idea, there are many ways to fabricate a video also and I think that now you are just trying to be an idiot in front of the whole community. You dislike that map makers have ban-lists, so dont play custom maps, play 3v3 on EU+ and ignore our part of atwar.


I don't play any of you or Tunder's maps, in fact, the only map belonging to autist mapmakers was ww1.

Ok, if it is so easy to edit a screen recorded video, I have changed the suggestion requiring you to record with a physical camera or phone.
You will have to show the screen from different angels, and do stuff on the screen proving its real.

Or how about you learn to do things that dont piss map makers off, hate to break it to you but the whole reason why all of these map makers are trying to ban you is because you are whining like a bitch in the forums calling map makers shit names and being a dick, so yeah they have no problem trolling you, whether the evidence is real or not and you are only fueling them by bitching even more
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27.01.2015 - 10:37
Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 22:50

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 26.01.2015 at 12:38

Kirjoittanut Guest, 26.01.2015 at 08:46

Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 25.01.2015 at 20:11

Or we allow map makers to ban without proof like we should have been doing the whole time




unfunny ripoff is unfunny

U mad bro?


no
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