Blackshark defeated. Debate over.

This is it kiddo. This is where you go down.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 24.01.2014 at 09:00

I'm sure me having a Smart TV is God not caring for me. Me getting a gaming PC soon is not God caring for me. Me having an educaton is God not caring for me. Okay.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 08:15

You don't understand shit about my religion. God, indirectly got me a great life. Seriously, maybe go read the Bible, then come back to debate.

Don't go offline now punk. Answer. Why did God give you good stuff, while giving these kids death? How does that make sense, you cretin? The debate is over, you are done. Gotcha.

Come on unleashed, stop killing narbs, it's an unfair fight xD

Unleashed's logic:

I go to watch Brain Games, which means I forfeit the debate. flawed logic.

So you responded in another thread. No problem, we bring it here, where your irrational arguments meet their end.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 13:58

Because God is in a way testing you. These kids can still get to Heaven. If people don't help those kids, God knows who He may punish. Some people got lucky, like me. But this means I should also help others.

So what you're saying is that god tested these two ones with poison gas, and they didn't pass the test. So god is a murderer, and you worship and defend him. Once again you sink yourself into stupid irrationality, defeating yourself without me having to lift a finger. Way to go, you fucking retard.

Kirjoittanut Unleashed, 01.04.2014 at 14:12

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 13:58

Because God is in a way testing you. These kids can still get to Heaven. If people don't help those kids, God knows who He may punish. Some people got lucky, like me. But this means I should also help others.

So what you're saying is that god tested these two ones with poison gass, and they didn't pass the test. So god is a murderer, and you worship and defend him. Once again you sink yourself into stupid irrationality, defeating yourself without me having to even more my finger. Way to go, you fucking retard.

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Huge fail is fail, I did not say God tested with poison gas. People used gas on them. I won't even argue with you anymore. You don't read my arguments.

The more you speak, the lower you sink into the infinite blackness of ignorance.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 14:24

No no no, God tested not the victims. But the people meant to help them.

In that case, god is a sadistic maniac who likes to watch people die.

No test is worth the lives of those innocent kids. Fuck you, and fuck your god.

It is not God's fault that those children are suffering. He gave humans free will, and how we use that free will is our choice. Thus, the people gassing those kids are using their free will to do so, and those children will find salvation in Heaven. Now, before this turn into a full blown debate, I realize that I will lose. A debate about religion between a religious person and an atheist is a waste of everyone's time. I will stand firmly on my side because of my faith, and you will stand firmly on your side. I just wanted to tell you that it's not God's direct doing, but the doing of those in which have been given free will.

I won't even debate you. You are not the type of religious person who bothers me.

Kirjoittanut Nero, 01.04.2014 at 14:53

It is not God's fault that those children are suffering. He gave humans free will, and how we use that free will is our choice. Thus, the people gassing those kids are using their free will to do so, and those children will find salvation in Heaven. Now, before this turn into a full blown debate, I realize that I will lose. A debate about religion between a religious person and an atheist is a waste of everyone's time. I will stand firmly on my side because of my faith, and you will stand firmly on your side. I just wanted to tell you that it's not God's direct doing, but the doing of those in which have been given free will.

Of course it's not a god doing that. And the same goes for the good stuff. But if you read Blackshark's posts, he suggests otherwise. THAT is what bothers me.

Kirjoittanut Nero, 01.04.2014 at 14:53

It is not God's fault that those children are suffering. He gave humans free will, and how we use that free will is our choice. Thus, the people gassing those kids are using their free will to do so, and those children will find salvation in Heaven. Now, before this turn into a full blown debate, I realize that I will lose. A debate about religion between a religious person and an atheist is a waste of everyone's time. I will stand firmly on my side because of my faith, and you will stand firmly on your side. I just wanted to tell you that it's not God's direct doing, but the doing of those in which have been given free will.

but..but..how do you know all this?who told you this?and who told him?i want to learn too

Kirjoittanut Unleashed, 01.04.2014 at 14:57

I won't even debate you. You are not the type of religious person who bothers me.

Kirjoittanut Nero, 01.04.2014 at 14:53

It is not God's fault that those children are suffering. He gave humans free will, and how we use that free will is our choice. Thus, the people gassing those kids are using their free will to do so, and those children will find salvation in Heaven. Now, before this turn into a full blown debate, I realize that I will lose. A debate about religion between a religious person and an atheist is a waste of everyone's time. I will stand firmly on my side because of my faith, and you will stand firmly on your side. I just wanted to tell you that it's not God's direct doing, but the doing of those in which have been given free will.

Of course it's not a god doing that. And the same goes for the good stuff. But if you read Blackshark's posts, he suggests otherwise. THAT is what bothers me.

I could be wrong though. Everyone makes a mistake.

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 01.04.2014 at 14:59

Kirjoittanut Nero, 01.04.2014 at 14:53

It is not God's fault that those children are suffering. He gave humans free will, and how we use that free will is our choice. Thus, the people gassing those kids are using their free will to do so, and those children will find salvation in Heaven. Now, before this turn into a full blown debate, I realize that I will lose. A debate about religion between a religious person and an atheist is a waste of everyone's time. I will stand firmly on my side because of my faith, and you will stand firmly on your side. I just wanted to tell you that it's not God's direct doing, but the doing of those in which have been given free will.

but..but..how do you know all this?who told you this?and who told him?i want to learn too

The Bible, priests and Sunday school.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:04

I could be wrong though.

Realizing that is the first step.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:05

The Bible, priests and Sunday school.

OH MY GOD. LOL!!!!

It sounded like you were making progress there for a second. Then you just snapped back. khal was right, there's no hope for you

I was just saying that were some sources that Nero could have used. What is so funny?

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:11

I was just saying that were some sources that Nero could have used. What is so funny?

Thise sources are as valid as wikipedia

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 15:12

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:11

I was just saying that were some sources that Nero could have used. What is so funny?

Thise sources are as valid as wikipedia

Wikipedia as far as I know is valid.

(shaking head)
Re-read what Nero said, and think on it.
If you're still bent on spewing your shit, you're doing a poor job.
Read up on it first.

Link to a good primer on the subject, and a translation engine for your language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicity
http://translate.google.com/intolerant-moron-to-english

Kirjoittanut Unleashed, 01.04.2014 at 14:36

The more you speak, the lower you sink into the infinite blackness of ignorance.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 14:24

No no no, God tested not the victims. But the people meant to help them.

In that case, god is a sadistic maniac who likes to watch people die.

No test is worth the lives of those innocent kids. Fuck you, and fuck your god.

Apparently the moral worth of the lives of those children as 'infinite', as no test would be worth their lives.

Is this infinite moral worth a function of their age, degree of innocence, or their quantity of deaths?
Would one less child dying mean that the test would have been worthwhile?
What is the source of this moral worth?

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 15:23

(shaking head)
Re-read what Nero said, and think on it.
If you're still bent on spewing your shit, you're doing a poor job.
Read up on it first.

Link to a good primer on the subject, and a translation engine for your language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicity
http://translate.google.com/intolerant-moron-to-english

i want to have a debate with a human being, not with some machine with Anti-Social Dissorder.
Plz give us your opinion about why you support religion, rather than somebody else's way of thinking.

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 15:12

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:11

I was just saying that were some sources that Nero could have used. What is so funny?

Thise sources are as valid as wikipedia

Wikipedia is as valid as any human enterprise.

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 15:37

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 15:23

(shaking head)
Re-read what Nero said, and think on it.
If you're still bent on spewing your shit, you're doing a poor job.
Read up on it first.

Link to a good primer on the subject, and a translation engine for your language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicity
http://translate.google.com/intolerant-moron-to-english

i want to have a debate with a human being, not with some machine with Anti-Social Dissorder.
Plz give us your opinion about why you support religion, rather than somebody else's way of thinking.

Anti-social disorder?
The dude is HATEFUL. I stand up against HATE.

You say I support religion: Evidence?
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Edit: I have been repeatedly clear that I stand up to intolerance. This stand does not require I believe in the beliefs of the other person, merely that I believe in their right to have and express their beliefs.

There have been plenty of other, reasonable people, who have made plenty of irreligious comments in these forums.
Those folks have been neither intolerant in their tone, hateful in their methods, or incompetent in their approach. They also don't claim to be arguing from an objective, rational standpoint.

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 15:37

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 15:12

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:11

I was just saying that were some sources that Nero could have used. What is so funny?

Thise sources are as valid as wikipedia

Wikipedia is as valid as any human enterprise.

Wikipedia is pretty damn valid I believe.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:05

The Bible, priests and Sunday school.

dude..

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:50

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

i actually like you,you providing good laughs

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 01.04.2014 at 15:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:50

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

i actually like you,you providing good laughs

Isn't it pretty clear that BlackShark was making a guess?
No?

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 16:07

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 01.04.2014 at 15:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:50

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

i actually like you,you providing good laughs

Isn't it pretty clear that BlackShark was making a guess?
No?

No, black shack is delusional.

And you are bias.

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 15:37

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 15:23

(shaking head)
Re-read what Nero said, and think on it.
If you're still bent on spewing your shit, you're doing a poor job.
Read up on it first.

Link to a good primer on the subject, and a translation engine for your language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicity
http://translate.google.com/intolerant-moron-to-english

i want to have a debate with a human being, not with some machine with Anti-Social Dissorder.
Plz give us your opinion about why you support religion, rather than somebody else's way of thinking.

And seriously, I put the link there so he (Unleashed) can get some aim in his brain guns.
He has plenty of ammo, but on the intellectual target range, he doesn't miss the paper, he shoots himself. He's literally the dumbest atheist I've met, and gives atheism a bad name. I'm not the first to observe this.

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 16:09

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 16:07

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 01.04.2014 at 15:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:50

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

i actually like you,you providing good laughs

Isn't it pretty clear that BlackShark was making a guess?
No?

No, black shack is delusional.

And you are bias.

A casual reading of the original subthread makes it reasonably clear that black shark is making a guess as to where Nero might have sourced his reply. Black Shark also SAID that was the intent.

I can't speak to Black Shark's state of mind, I am only speaking to these two clear points.
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Fair warning: You've accused me of some mad shit. You've claimed I'm 'supporting religion' and were asked to provide evidence, and haven't. You claim I'm machine like and 'anti-social'.

Now, tell me about my bias.

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 16:17

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 16:09

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 16:07

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 01.04.2014 at 15:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:50

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

i actually like you,you providing good laughs

Isn't it pretty clear that BlackShark was making a guess?
No?

No, black shack is delusional.

And you are bias.

A casual reading of the original subthread makes it reasonably clear that black shark is making a guess as to where Nero might have sourced his reply. Black Shark also SAID that was the intent.

I can't speak to Black Shark's state of mind, I am only speaking to these two clear points.
===
Fair warning: You've accused me of some mad shit. You've claimed I'm 'supporting religion' and were asked to provide evidence, and haven't. You claim I'm machine like and 'anti-social'.

Now, tell me about my bias.

the fact that you haven't addressed the topic with a opinion of your own, makes the reader assume that you have a pro-religion stance.

do YOU think that GOD is real? yes or no.

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 17:08

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 16:17

Kirjoittanut Cpt.Magic, 01.04.2014 at 16:09

Kirjoittanut zombieyeti, 01.04.2014 at 16:07

Kirjoittanut Khal.eesi, 01.04.2014 at 15:57

Kirjoittanut Guest, 01.04.2014 at 15:50

Khal, I did not claim the sources were real. I simply stated what could have been Nero's sources. Stop being an idiot please.

i actually like you,you providing good laughs

Isn't it pretty clear that BlackShark was making a guess?
No?

No, black shack is delusional.

And you are bias.

A casual reading of the original subthread makes it reasonably clear that black shark is making a guess as to where Nero might have sourced his reply. Black Shark also SAID that was the intent.

I can't speak to Black Shark's state of mind, I am only speaking to these two clear points.
===
Fair warning: You've accused me of some mad shit. You've claimed I'm 'supporting religion' and were asked to provide evidence, and haven't. You claim I'm machine like and 'anti-social'.

Now, tell me about my bias.

the fact that you haven't addressed the topic with a opinion of your own, makes the reader assume that you have a pro-religion stance.

do YOU think that GOD is real? yes or no.

And I've been called autistic.
Read 'fair warning' above.