22.08.2017 - 19:57
Push ups Sit ups Pull ups Wondering what the avrage of AW is. Please dont lie if you are to embarrassed just dont post Cheers I just started training. 2 weeks ago again after 10 years. I can do 55 push ups 60 sit ups 20 pull ups In one set Small sets i can do 100 110 and 45
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22.08.2017 - 23:26
Not sure about sit ups but i can do 110 crunches in 2 minutes, 70 without stopping, 20 pullups (chin above the bar to arms straight hanging) and around 40 pushups? People would probably be less shy if you put a poll instead of asking us directly.
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22.08.2017 - 23:34
1 litre Johnny Walker Black Label 10-12 joints (preferably white widow, crystal, purple haze or bubble-gum) ... in one (good) night.
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23.08.2017 - 12:41
In one set I can do 80 - 100 sit ups, 7 pull ups, 25 - 30 push ups and 10 chin ups.
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23.08.2017 - 12:47
I bet croat can do 1000 push ups, 900 pull ups, 1000 sit ups 1000.... I think you can see where I am going?
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23.08.2017 - 13:58
yeah everything you cant do or dont understand has to be gay. muslim mentality.
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23.08.2017 - 14:09
Thats impressive, but truth be told it is not possible to do 20 pullups after 10 years of not working out. Trust me i know. Maybe you kip like fuck like the crossfitters? Its still impressive, just saying, anyway i suggest you progress now, add dips and handstand holds and inverted rows for upper body and add hollow body holds, arch holds, leg raises and maybe v-ups and russian twists for core. Focus on proper form and increase in intesity, not reps imo. And for the love of god work your legs bro lol. Squats, lunges, step ups, one leg deadlifts, split squats..anything! Well done
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23.08.2017 - 14:34
Thanks for the advice I do a hard job so that should contribute to the fact that im somewhat in shape..
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23.08.2017 - 14:36
Surely no one will lie now.
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23.08.2017 - 14:42
Xaxa telling ppl not to lie and then posting that you can do 20 pullups after 10 years not working out. I'm a regular at the gym and I can only do a tentative 15. Godofwar= Godofguns
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23.08.2017 - 15:44
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23.08.2017 - 16:23
And why are they useless? Why are they gay? Explain. ***Edited*** I was excessively aggressive. I thought you were the muslim maniac and its not very hard for a muslim to trigger me, just breathing will do it
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23.08.2017 - 16:25
theyre really not useless at all
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23.08.2017 - 16:29
Push ups sit ups and pull ups are all endurance exercises. they are shit exercises for mass unless you do them weighted. And even with weights there are better exercises that hit the exact same body part like db presses, or db rows.
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23.08.2017 - 16:42
Nice bro science. stop reading useless bodybuilding forums, please. You are spreading ignorance and gym myths like the plague. 1. Every excercise can be an endurance exercise when it is done above the 15 repetitions, that applies to weight lifting aswell and every other form of sport, it has nothing to do with calisthenics. 2. You can work strength and hypetrophy with calisthenics if you add weights, play around with the bodies levers, incline, single limbs etc. A ton of books have been written about it. 3. Who the fuck talked about mass? Since when working out and training became a synonym of muscle mass? Who cares about big fake muscles except braindead muscleheads? Endurance is not something to look down on as its what you will probably find more important in your daily activities and your casual sport. Moreso with calisthenics you strengthen your whole body in comparison with weightlifting which is full of isolation, you strengthen your connective tissue, you train your CNS more and you build a core 10 times stronger than bodybuilders and at the same time you work your balance, flexibility, speed and reflexes among others.
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23.08.2017 - 17:21
The real question that needs to be answered is this: HOW MANY COCK PUSH UPS CAN YOU DO? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYpE8Adrx4 WTF! Why? You may ask.....the answer is simple: To dominate in the Alaskan Cock Wrestling League of course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0lsr79gLis
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23.08.2017 - 20:18
Hush, you still can't squat like a slav.
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23.08.2017 - 20:22
Reach this and i'll pass the crown.
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23.08.2017 - 20:50
1. yes genius, every exercise can be an endurance exercises if you do them for reps, but we are talking about push ups, sit ups and pull ups. doing push ups will do nothing to your strength. it will only increase the amount of push ups you can do. i've seen tons of cardio bunnies do loads of push ups, sit ups and pull ups but are they strong? no, because exercises like pull ups and push ups are always relative to the person's weight. 2. i never said you couldn't have hypertrophy with calisthenics. i said it sucks because there are other exercises that can isolate the body part and strengthen it. i.e how the fuck are you suppose to hit your delts when the only thing you have is a bar. good luck doing 100 reps of handstand push ups. the problem with calisthenics is that you will always lag behind lifters because the exercises that are strictly for calisthenics are limited. 3. i said mass because that is primarily the motivation that people have for going to the gym. also, i think you have a misconception about bodybuilding training because a lot of the shit that bodybuilders do is endurance training. most bodybuilders do high reps of negatives with isolation exercises because it guarantees the most hypertrophy since most who actually go to contests are on test. and how the fuck does only calisthenics equate to strengthening connective tissue. every fucking exercise strengthens your connective tissue. who says bodybuilders don't have balance, flexibility, speed and reflexes among others? there are a ton of examples in the fitness industry. truth be told, i'm not saying calisthenic exercises are useless, but generally sole calisthenic is a meme that people fall for and think doing it will make them look like and be able to do the shit in bar bros or something but they won't, because it is painfully obvious that most of them are all roid monkeys. // you stop spreading ignorance. you make stupid 14 year olds come to the gym and start flopping on the floor and on the bar when they can follow a proper SS routine and actually get stronger.
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23.08.2017 - 20:54
Dude how much do you weight if you workout at the gym you probably lift weights I am much skinner i weight 160 pounds And work as a carpenter for the past 8 years And have like 10% body fat Please dont go calling people liars without knowing all the facts
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24.08.2017 - 02:45 Freeman Käyttäjä poistettu
5-6 years ago I had back to back months with these kind of excercises done daily. I used to do 100 ~ push ups in one day. One time I forced myself to do 100 pushups in one sitting and I made it. However, my interest in it faded and now I seldomly do some home work-out. I make without problem 10-15 pushups now.
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24.08.2017 - 14:01
Well yes and no. Its true that if something becomes too easy then it will stop stimulating your mind and fibers for new growth and the general rule is lower reps/ heavier weight is a better stimulant for strenght and hypertrophy, but that doesnt mean that working in the higher rep range wont induce significant strength and hypertrophy gains, lower when compared, but far from "nothing". That is a classic example of bro science and why you shouldnt take advice from random gym goers and bodybuilding forums, because they havent studied physiology nor have they bothered to read the actual research. Also science is somewhat contradicted on this, new studies (and some old) are showing up claiming that multijoint exercises performed in and beyond the "endurance" repetitions can provide similar gains in hypertrophy and strength, when done correctly, meaning to fatigue and working through the burn, but i am not completely sold myself. That aside, you have to take into account that pullups and pushups are exercises that work a ton of muscles and all your joints together so there is a benefit to be familiar with them and build repetitions first before increasing resistance. I would agree though that theres not much to gain after being able to perform 5 sets of 50 pushups or 5 sets of 30 sit ups. In general ab work is different and weightlifters are doing them wrong. Abdominals have a greatest proportion of type I fibers (slow) than the rest of the muscles and also in the majority of the movements they perform as stabilising muscles. That means that working them in high repetition range and in isometric holds has benefits. Sit ups above 30 repetitions are useless but mainly because its a crap exercise and 9/10 of the people are doing them wrong. Actually most of the people in a gym are doing their core wrong, using momentum and lower back and they dont even know the significance of iliopsoas and a proper posterior pelvic tilt for a trully strong core. Another thing to keep in mind is making sure your tendons catch up with your muscles, evident by the fact that the average bodybuilder has destroyed joints and tendons, you build your core along with your bigger muscles, evident by the fact that most bodybuilders have ruined lower backs. I do believe in increase intensity after you get comfortable but having a solid foundation from the main movements like pullups, dips and pushups will have a carryover to more advanced movements and sports and promote injury prevention. As for relative strength vs absolute strength, relative strength (how much force you can exert relative to your body size) will always be a greater indicator of strength and athleticism than absolute strength. The sports performance and physiology textbooks say so atleast as manipulating your own body has more carryover to your everyday needs but on sports and activities aswell and is also the biggest contributing factor to power. Lastly, dont confuse cardio bunnies with calisthenics/ gymnastics please. Cardio routines are almost useless for other reasons, one of the main being poor form, using momentum and not enough muscle stimulus.
Isolation exercises recruit less muscle fibers and make up for less neurological adaptations. Doesnt matter if you feel pumped after bicep curls, its just fluids, its a fake pump and it wont last. Traditional weightlifting programs are meant for professionals who use steroids.They get the greatest benefits because they are recovering faster and they can spend hours in the gym everyday performing multiple different exercise to hit every angle of their muscles fast and easy, because thats what they do, they are in the business of building huge muscles with as much definition as possible. Weightlifting is the easiest and most time/energy efficient way to build your muscles i agree. But the only real advantages it has over calisthenics are muscle mass and absolute strength, only 2 in 10 other important aspects of athleticism and physical condition. You just cant say things like calisthenics is useless, when its superior in all the other variables. As for handstands pushups i ll be surprised if a regular bodybuilder can perform even 1, offcourse supported and i sincerely doubt he will. This is a very advanced exercise that along with insanely strong delts and traps require strong and very mobile shoulders, wrists and elbows, very strong core and the ability to tilt your pelvis back.
Well just because lazy people prefer to just get a quick buff and have big muscles that they cant use that doesnt mean we should applaud this behaviour or give more power to bodybuilding bro science. Bodybuilders usually follow one of the two protocols of high intensity or time under tension, but people will have to finally realise that these guys are proffessionals and they do take STEROIDS. Everything changes for them, everything. Doing what they do and taking advice from them if you are natural only benefits their youtube views, the supplement companies and doctors and physiotherapists imo.
Tendons strengthen way slower than muscles and they also dont get bloodflow, they are very delicate things. The more the resistance/weight the harder the tendon becomes and the easier it is to rupture. Weightlifting not only isolates muscles and add more and more resistance, making tendon injury a mathematical phenomenon, meaning something that surely will happen eventually. It also creates muscle imbalances, again because of isolation and that sets you up for injury aswell because the muscles are made to work together. With calisthenics every exercise is a multijoint exercise and by working through the progressions the right way, you are strengthening them and even healing your whole joints. Real life proof of this is my own mistake, i progressed from bodyweight pullups straight to 10kg weightvest pullups. Why? Because of gym mentality, i could perform 5 clean reps with the vest so i was right in the strength repetition range so i said why not? After a week i got tricep tendonitis in both of my elbows, it took me almost a year to recover and offcourse it will never be the same, i still get pain and have to work carefully. Three things i took away from this 1. tendons do not follow muscle progress, they need time to catch up. 2. Muscles are working together and you cant hide forever. Imbalances will get you eventually. That is why i injured my triceps in freaking pullups, meaning i injured a muscle who was the antagonist of the muscle actually involved in the movement, because i was stupid to favour my back and biceps wayyyy more than my chest and triceps. 3. Continuous, fast or sudden intensity/ aka increase in weights, will get one of your tendons eventually and thats not something you ever recover from. It stays with you forever.
They dont. I dont want to make the post any longer, but they just dont.. Calisthenics have grown alot in popularity and that means alot of idiots and some roidheads there, yes off course, but they are a tiny minority and most of them do strength based calisthenics anyway. You have to understand that real calisthenics is in essence street gymnastics, goes way beyond pushups, sit ups, pullups which are simply great functional compound exercise to do to get/stay in shape. But true calisthenics require alot of patience, alot of reading and the greatest mind-body connection. It is also very taxing on the central nervous system, all the exercises and especially the more advanced ones, require a very active brain to actively instruct the whole body to contract, lengthen and move in a coordinated manner, its just so much happening even in one rep. And trust me theres alot of muscles and all joints involved and you need strength and flexibility in all of them. Just a simple back bridge exercise that most weightlifters can never do involves around 300 muscles. Honestly gym is great, i wish i was not obsessed with calisthenics because gym is just easier. Simple isolated movements that produce results, Not much thinking involved when you just sit and push something, you dont burn your brain cells like with calisthenics. Whats not to love. I try to hit the gym occasionally, its my cheat day and im always very excited to go, its just easier on my brain and a day off for my core. I can sit there for hours killing all my muscles and when i step out in the end i feel like i played videogames. Sure my muscles are burned and hurt but thats always fun, my mind not being tired does it for me.
I am a pt and i have most of my customers do free weights as their major workout. But thats not because weights are superior overall its just because most people lack the drive, patience and motivation to do calisthenics or they have simple goals ( pack muscle fast, lose weight fast). Apologies for coming on hard, but i have to deal with weightlifting bro scientists every day and their myths spread like disease, its annoying. Just dont be so absolute in your statements and maybe phrase it better , eg weightlifting is better to build muscle mass or calisthenics is for fags because i think that someone who likes endurance, strength, passive and active flexibility, power, balance, coordination, agility, speed, fluidity and grace of movement is a fag. I will upvote then
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24.08.2017 - 15:17
Haha, I totally agree it is total bro science with the high/low rep = hypertrophy/strength. It is why I mentioned negatives because it is scientifically proven that more muscle is broken down during the eccentric phase. I agree with your points on push ups and sit ups and I honestly do think pull ups are a good exercise, but I do not recommend it for most people because personally, it is difficult to find the mind muscle connection with my lats when I do pull ups Furthermore, pull ups are especially one of those exercises that makes people do pull ups with improper form because of ego lifting. If you are a PT I doubt you haven't seen people kipping or hunching their backs trying to get that extra rep. Sorry, if you got the impression that I thought calisthenics = cardio bunny. I was just giving an example of a personal experience. I have never heard that Isolation exercises recruit less muscle fibers. I would actually say the opposite. However, routines that isolate each body part per day like bro splits ARE useless for regular people because those routines are basically made for people on steroids. I think typical bodybuilders can perform handstand pushups. It's not like bodybuilders are all meatheads. There are weight classes and divisions. High intensity routines are for those on steroids that's why I mentioned the SS routine. One the other hand, high time under tension is not. I'm sure there are researches about the positive correlation in TUT and hypertrophy. Besides, calisthenics is literally doing ton of TUT and negatives so you really have no reason to call it for people on steroids. I agree, tendons do not progress on the same rate as muscle do, but I still think that all exercises help strengthen the tendon as long as you don't ego lift or over train it. I think mind muscle connection is more easily developed through weightlifting and finding that mind muscle connection is much more difficult with calisthenics. I don't know if calisthenics is the best way to train the CNS if that's what you are saying because I've heard that explosive training is the best for training CNS like plyometrics. You're making it sound like weightlifting makes you gain mass fast. Free weights doesn't guarantee that you get muscle fast unless they are noobie gains. I think you are sucking the dick of calisthenics too hard. You can still get the attributes that you mentioned about calisthenics and still be a weightlifter. It sounds as if you think calisthenics is the god of all workouts and anyone who disagrees are bro scientists.
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