Let us bet protocoins

If admins really want to make money with this game, let us bet protocoins on the outcome of the games. What if we could bet 25pc, 50pc, 100pc, or your entire pc if you have more than 100pc? We don't even need a complex algorithm to divide coins among the winners. People who bet a certain amount of pc can only win coins from those who bet the same amount. So if three people bet 25pc and if two people vote that team alpha will win and one person votes that team beta will win and if alpha wins, the 75pc is divided by two and given to the winners. if five other people in the same game bet 50pc and three people voted that team alpha will win and the other two said that team beta would win and alpha wins, the 250pc gets divided by three and given to the players who bet 50pc on alpha winning. Even though people bet 25pc on alpha winning, they receive no additional coins from those who bet 50pc for team beta to win.

Also, nobody can spend their pc until they earn 500+pc through betting. You can only bet with the pc you brought, not the pc you got through betting until you earned 500+pc by betting.

Think about all the people that would bet pc on ancient world team games, WW1/2 games, 3v3s and CWs exc. Would make a lot of games more exciting. Also, imagine if RP players got into betting. Would be a gold mine for the admins.

Lol thats like free protocoins winning

> rank 9-10-11 vs 6-6-7 > everybody bets first team

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 17.07.2014 at 09:06

> rank 9-10-11 vs 6-6-7 > everybody bets first team

Yea, thats why there are betting odds and coefficients ...so it would be a shitty one, meaning you wouldnt win shit by placing a bet on team 1.
You never bet on sports or something?

btw. idk about the idea ...its not that simple, it actually cannot be done at all for players and teams that dont have some kind of points like competence, elo etc. because you couldnt calculate the odd ...and furthermore, who is gona manage all of this...

lets just stick to our underground bets ...whoops it slipped of my tongue D:

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 17.07.2014 at 09:14

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 17.07.2014 at 09:06

> rank 9-10-11 vs 6-6-7 > everybody bets first team

Yea, thats why there are betting odds and coefficients ...so it would be a shitty one, meaning you wouldnt win shit by placing a bet on team 1.
You never bet on sports or something?

btw. idk about the idea

I know.. But it wont work on this game. That's what I was saying.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 17.07.2014 at 09:18

Kirjoittanut Waffel, 17.07.2014 at 09:17

I know.. But it wont work on this game. That's what I was saying.

Yea i posted before finishing the thought.

Thats something u do often =( so much hating towards me.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 17.07.2014 at 09:14

Yea, thats why there are betting odds and coefficients ...so it would be a shitty one, meaning you wouldnt win shit by placing a bet on team 1.
You never bet on sports or something?

btw. idk about the idea ...its not that simple, it actually cannot be done at all for players and teams that dont have some kind of points like competence, elo etc. because you couldnt calculate the odd ...and furthermore, who is gona manage all of this...

lets just stick to our underground bets ...whoops it slipped of my tongue D:

Who cares about the odds or pointless statistics? Nobody needs to manage anything. It can be a feature where you click the bet tab, you pick how much you want to bet and who you're betting on winning and then it automatically pays out when the game ends.

Kirjoittanut Fockmeeard, 17.07.2014 at 09:27

Who cares about the odds or pointless statistics? Nobody needs to manage anything. It can be a feature where you click the bet tab, you pick how much you want to bet and who you're betting on winning and then it automatically pays out when the game ends.

You serious Fock ...have you ever bet?

You cant have a for example: Tophats versus random rank 5 and just place a bet. I mean fuckin lol man.
Everyone would bet on tophats ...who is gona pay out protocoins to all the people who have taken a bet on tophats (admins? you?) if there isnt some sort of beting odds.

Coefficient on tophats would be like 1,01 ...so if you bet 100 PC you would won 1.

Also ...beting odd couldnt be calculated up to the very start of the game: Example:

Player 1 versus Player 2 fight ...both have similar skill and are equals. Coefficient on both of them is 1,5 ...draw is like 5,0
But the game starts and player 1 picks Bosnia, player 2 picks Turkey ...now obviously even doe they are both similiar skilled players ...the odd is hugely in favor of player 2 ...and the coefficient would have to change based on that.

Even if you could set up some sort of automatic calulator which takes in hand players statistics to calculate the odds between 2 players, you could never set up for a machine to calculate the odds between countries that players pick ...it couldnt say correctly based on country income or reinforcments who has the upper hand, we players know this, computer couldnt.


Its not so simple fock as you think. Why dont we set up a lottery or something ...that shit is more simple.


What you are actually proposing is not beting ...its a Protocoin pool ...everyone would throw their PC in the pool and the ones whos Player win would divide the entire pool equaly ...but how is this fair? One player puts 100 PC other puts a 1000 and yet they need to divide the entire pool xD ...some people would fuckin lose PC instead of wining.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 17.07.2014 at 09:41

Kirjoittanut Fockmeeard, 17.07.2014 at 09:27

Who cares about the odds or pointless statistics? Nobody needs to manage anything. It can be a feature where you click the bet tab, you pick how much you want to bet and who you're betting on winning and then it automatically pays out when the game ends.

You serious Fock ...have you ever bet?

You cant have a for example: Tophats versus random rank 5 and just place a bet. I mean fuckin lol man.
Everyone would bet on tophats ...who is gona pay out protocoins to all the people who have taken a bet on tophats (admins? you?) if there isnt some sort of beting odds.

Coefficient on tophats would be like 1,01 ...so if you bet 100 PC you would won 1.

Also ...beting odd couldnt be calculated up to the very start of the game: Example:

Player 1 versus Player 2 fight ...both have similar skill and are equals. Coefficient on both of them is 1,5 ...draw is like 5,0
But the game starts and player 1 picks Bosnia, player 2 picks Turkey ...now obviously even doe they are both similiar skilled players ...the odd is hugely in favor of player 2 ...and the coefficient would have to change based on that.

Even if you could set up some sort of automatic calulator which takes in hand players statistics to calculate the odds between 2 players, you could never set up for a machine to calculate the odds between countries that players pick ...it couldnt say correctly based on country income or reinforcments who has the upper hand, we players know this, computer couldnt.


Its not so simple fock as you think. Why dont we set up a lottery or something ...that shit is more simple.


What you are actually proposing is not beting ...its a Protocoin pool ...everyone would throw their PC in the pool and the ones whos Player win would divide the entire pool equaly ...but how is this fair? One player puts 100 PC other puts a 1000 and yet they need to divide the entire pool xD ...some people would fuckin lose PC instead of wining.

Clearly you didn't read my post. You saw the title, read waffel's post, then responded... If you did read my post you wouldn't have included that last paragraph.

People who would bet already know their chances of winning or losing. In sports, you may not have the knowledge of every player of every team. You may not have watched all their games or know the current state of the chemistry between the players. Therefore you need odds to tell you what your chances are. In atwar we played with the people we bet on. We watched the players we bet on. We know a lot of their strengths and weaknesses. We know Eagles has a very good Germany. We know Laochra, Stryko, and Acqui all have a very solid east. We know hormi is good at 5k games. We know Acqui, Desu, Eagles(insert random numbers here) are all solid at just about every country. There is no need for us to know odds or statistics when we can make a better judgement for ourselves. We aren't betting blind like when you bet on most sports teams.

In game it says that there is protocoin drop but i never got it.I even played games that are over 50 turn but nothing.

Or what we can do, is we can have a fake gambling thread! Everyone gets a fake number of coins, and we start playing poker or texas hold'em or blackjack.

edit: idk, random idea

Kirjoittanut Sultan of Swing, 17.07.2014 at 12:54

Or what we can do, is we can have a fake gambling thread! Everyone gets a fake number of coins, and we start playing poker or texas hold'em or blackjack.

edit: idk, random idea

I would become a gambling addict, in the end lose all my fake cash, then borrow some from AW loan sharks like Fock, lose all that money, get into debt which i cant pay off and in the end Fock's gorilla's like Sultan of Swing would track me down and break my fake knees

There is strict gambling laws in some countries (USA is one of them) this would break the law.. Online gambling is prohibited.

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 17.07.2014 at 17:04

Kirjoittanut Sultan of Swing, 17.07.2014 at 12:54

Or what we can do, is we can have a fake gambling thread! Everyone gets a fake number of coins, and we start playing poker or texas hold'em or blackjack.

edit: idk, random idea

I would become a gambling addict, in the end lose all my fake cash, then borrow some from AW loan sharks like Fock, lose all that money, get into debt which i cant pay off and in the end Fock's gorilla's like Sultan of Swing would track me down and break my fake knees

I don't even know how to respond to this

What if only the players that play can vote? Would just make it easier.
Edit: everyone would have to vote for themselves obv. Also, for team games, it can work with percentage. So if only I betted on our team, I get all the pc in the middle.

I know this changes the whole idea but it could be more viable

I like that idea.

Kirjoittanut Fockmeeard, 17.07.2014 at 10:09

We know Laochra, Stryko, and Acqui all have a very solid east. We know hormi is good at 5k games. We know Acqui, Desu, Eagles(insert random numbers here) are all solid at just about every country.

There count a legend, that I used to be the rank 9 with best east..... my opponent all cappeds turn 3/4, nothing could defend against the worse....

Then SM and their OP fund east came. GG me

Would it be you bet and the system rewards you protocoins if you won? Because I think it should be based on a 'pot', where it's just you get the other person's coins. Maybe if like say 8 people bet the system could add +5 protocoins to the pot? Even then, couldn't people just rig bets or bet on the obvious favorite/most likely to win?