Politics in America

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Lähettänyt Skanderbeg, 28.08.2016 - 06:00

Since American Presidential Election is near, i was reading about Republican and Democratic Party, their ideologies, history, size, and then i realized American Society is not passive at all.

For good comparison i'll post party membership in some other countries;

Russia:

United Russia: 2,000,000
Liberal Democrats: 600,000
Communist Party: 500,000
Fair Russia: 400,000
Other parties: 500,000
Total: 4,000,000

China:

Communist Party: 90 million

America:

Democratic Party: 40 million
Republican Party: 30 million
Total: 70,000,000

Taking in consideration that America have 320 million citizens, this mean every second working-age American is party member!

Even if compared to highly politicized & ideological historical countries, America is still on top of the list per percentage:

USSR: 290 million citizens, 20 million party members = 7% of total population
Nazi Germany: 65 million citizens, 8 million party members = 12% of total population
Fascist Italy: 43 million citizens, 6 million party members = 13% of total population

America: 320 million citizens: 70 million party members = 21% of total population
China: 1.37 billion citizens: 90 million party members = 6% of total population
Russia: 145 million citizens: 4 million party members = 3% of total population

This is clear indication America have the most politicized society which is shock atleast to me because Europe and Russia are known for high politicization of various spheres of life i.e. Greek Crisis, Portuguese Elections, Spanish Crisis, Italian Politics, German leftist-nazi clashes.

Take in mind that i only used 2 American parties ignoring the minor ones and their party membership.

Oleg Prestige Postit: 7276 Lähettäjä: Montenegro	+2 03.09.2016 - 18:18 Oleg Kirjoittanut Skanderbeg, 03.09.2016 at 07:44 Kirjoittanut x___, 02.09.2016 at 13:57 hahahhhahahhhh this is so troll i dont think you know what an inferiority complex is loooool If i want to talk about human stuff, i'll contact humans, not rats like you, you can keep rumbling. I only have to say this to you: Tito upvote farming with that gif xd ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
Skanderbeg The_Empire Postit: 5632	21.01.2017 - 15:38 Skanderbeg Kirjoittanut Valetorious, 28.08.2016 at 09:29 wowza people participate in a democratic system How is joining a party 'participating in a democratic system'? I thought voting is participating in demsys. I don't like to crush young peoples dreams, but the truth is they join parties to get a job, because it is easier to get a job in the State, provided by the ruling party than risking in the economy... you have to study, have good grades, then candidate for job in some corporation where competition is warlike. Simply join party, vote for it and advertise it among local community, then when they win elections, they place you in some beaurocratic position and voila, you got yourself a 3 hour job, 12 coffees a day and a female co-workers to grope. That's why America have 30 million members in the ruling party, that's why Russia have 2 million members in the ruling party and that's why China have 80 million members in the ruling party. ---- If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots Ladataan... Ladataan...
Khal.eesi Illyria Postit: 4213 Lähettäjä: Israel	+1 21.01.2017 - 15:56 Khal.eesi Lol that gif. and lol commando trying to upvote farm and get 0 upvotes. this thread ---- Ladataan... Ladataan...
Helly Sons of Mars Postit: 5389 Lähettäjä: USA	22.01.2017 - 04:05 Helly Kirjoittanut Skanderbeg, 21.01.2017 at 15:38 Kirjoittanut Valetorious, 28.08.2016 at 09:29 wowza people participate in a democratic system How is joining a party 'participating in a democratic system'? I thought voting is participating in demsys. I don't like to crush young peoples dreams, but the truth is they join parties to get a job, because it is easier to get a job in the State, provided by the ruling party than risking in the economy... you have to study, have good grades, then candidate for job in some corporation where competition is warlike. Simply join party, vote for it and advertise it among local community, then when they win elections, they place you in some beaurocratic position and voila, you got yourself a 3 hour job, 12 coffees a day and a female co-workers to grope. That's why America have 30 million members in the ruling party, that's why Russia have 2 million members in the ruling party and that's why China have 80 million members in the ruling party. Our systems works diferently apparently in the united states all voters are party members and tallied as such when voting for president or other major office, not every person who belongs to a party is employed by said party and is on pay roll. There is less then 10 million payed party members in the United states, although you can hold offices and be aligned to a party but be on government pay roll rather then party payroll. ---- We are not the same- I am a Martian. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Helly Sons of Mars Postit: 5389 Lähettäjä: USA	22.01.2017 - 04:31 Helly Kirjoittanut Skanderbeg, 29.08.2016 at 06:47 Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 28.08.2016 at 14:24 yea, but america is more of a slight oligarchy anyways Because of the Lobbying in Wall Street and Washington DC. They say there are 100,000 lobbyists/spin doctors there and that branch make $9 billion a year. Plus large private corporations which can hire an army of lawyers to find a law loop in order to evade paying taxes. Or cheat on quality, like European truck makers recently. Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 28.08.2016 at 14:24 they dont have state donations That is a problem then, because then it is not equal elections: any citizen have right to create a political party and run for elections, but if he doesn't have money to pay TV ad, radio ad, pay a stage in city center to give a speech to the masses; his voice won't be heard and people will vote for others who are constantly showing up on TV, go from town to town to give speeches etc. State should provide money for political campaign to all parties, but same amount of cash, not different according to party influence or membership size. Basic party funding is required to pay TV ad, radio ad and lets say town to town speeches. If some parties want more funding, they can seek in corporations support, dinner fundraising or any other form they please. That's one of the problem in Russia and basic problem for which West accused Putin of totalitarianism, back to USSR and less political freedom; when he raised the standard required to register new political party so State doesn't waste millions on political parties during elections. There are already democratic party, communist party, conservative party, nationalist party so creating more is just copying. 90% of parties in Russia are one man who put a name on the paper 'to create a party' then he recieve $1 million for political campaign but he spend that on buying villa, car, yacht, travel to exotic places and when elections end he simply say 'oh well, looks like i lost, nevermind, i'll run in 4 years again, cya!' and he drives off in Masseratti-Mercedes-Maybach SLX 5000 Limited Edition. If you end that, West cry less freedoms, if you allow that, Russians cry corruption, you can't make everyone happy. In tbe united states parties recieve 0 tax dollars, they are funded souly by donations, lobbyists, and rich high ranking members. No party recieve income from the state. ---- We are not the same- I am a Martian. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Helly Sons of Mars Postit: 5389 Lähettäjä: USA	+1 22.01.2017 - 04:34 Helly Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 29.08.2016 at 13:20 Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 29.08.2016 at 09:04 thats what bernie sanders' failure proved, he had his entire party against him. you can't place all of the blame for Bernies loss on the party, while it was a factor he had no where near as much as support as people were led to believe Except it was proven in leaked emails that the dnc rigged the primaries against him, so no matter how much support it was more then hillary. ---- We are not the same- I am a Martian. Ladataan... Ladataan...
Tik-Tok Optimates Postit: 1291	30.01.2017 - 17:07 Tik-Tok Kirjoittanut Helly, 22.01.2017 at 04:34 Kirjoittanut Viruslegion, 29.08.2016 at 13:20 Kirjoittanut Tirpitz406, 29.08.2016 at 09:04 thats what bernie sanders' failure proved, he had his entire party against him. you can't place all of the blame for Bernies loss on the party, while it was a factor he had no where near as much as support as people were led to believe Except it was proven in leaked emails that the dnc rigged the primaries against him, so no matter how much support it was more then hillary. He would have lost to Trump regardless. Neither Sanders nor Clinton had black support. Clinton had the female vote and without that Sanders would have had even less votes than Clinton, especially in key areas where Trump was winning from lower-middle class White Americans who liked his economic protectionist policies which Sanders had no intention of pushing. Sanders was trash, he was setup to give Clinton legitimacy. DNC leaks showed that Clinton wanted someone like Sanders as opposition to bounce off and for someone like Trump to radicalize the Right to seem off putting to the general population. It backfired heavily. The arrogance of the elites underestimated public anger and the Wests path toward demagoguery. They genuinely had no idea that the Silent Majority held views that Trump promoted. Ladataan... Ladataan...

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