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01.11.2013 - 10:43
Most of you don't know me, but I'm not exactly new to the game.

I just need some tips on improving my gameplay, because it usually ends with me flaming the other player after a catastrophic defeat.

The problem is the fact that I keep finding myself in the middle of a battle, lacking units.
I just don't know...

I usually send reinforcements from the nearby regions to the battle... Which usually isn't enough.
I tried sending some from the further regions but they're usually too late, and all they do is help maintain control over the new battlefield that's now closer to my capital.

I don't have a favorite strategy (could this be the problem?), but I tend to lean towards GW and PD. I experiment with Blitz and MoS, but that's too expensive for some games. I don't use RA that much (anymore).

Considering tanks are screwed up with GW and PD, I almost never use them. I tend to favor marines, infantry and militia (depending on the strategy), and cover them with some bombers. But nevertheless, I get slaughtered. I managed to pull the 'Learster maneuver' on some poor bastard, but that didn't last, considering all my defenses were down due to all the marines I had to keep up and running.

How does one manage to fight on the actual battlefield while simultaneously reinforcing, defending and pulling stealth maneuvers (if GW/MoS/other)?

Here's my upgrades... I think I spent some SP on useless stuff, but what's done is done.



Honestly, I think I'm doing something wrong.

Could anyone enlighten me, gimme a few tips how to improve?
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01.11.2013 - 11:12
AlexMeza
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Every upgrade you got is OK, except blitzkrieg, you should have bought Sky Menace instead .
Start playing Europe+ 100add 10k games, that will improve your gameplay

EDIT: Join my future clan I'll help you
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
02.11.2013 - 01:22
These are excactly like my rank 5 upgrades, you and me only did one mistake, Faster Infantry. That should be the first thing you buy. Your choice of strats is pretty good PD and GW are pretty solid, and you dont so anything but experiment with blitz :p you seem to be asking the right questions and thinking on the right path. But i cant help you further because i am fairly inexperianced i hope someone experianced can help you!
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Ladataan...
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02.11.2013 - 03:30
Thanks for the tips, guys.

It has come to my attention that PD/GW doesn't mean diddly squat once the enemy brings on multiple stacks of 30+, carrying bombers, tanks, infantry and militia.

I've read some guides here on the forum, and they all tell you what to do, but those tips are useless once sh*t hits the fan.

I just don't understand, how the hell do I defend against multiple 30+ invasion stacks, yet manage to punch a good counter-attack? It seems all I do is defend all the time.

And also, how in God's name does one manage to amass such forces? 30 bombers, air transport, tanks and infantry... Yes, I realize his regions must be poorly defended because of this, but there's no resources to sneak marines in and still defend myself. I gotta pour every reinf. on defending or I'm capped.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
02.11.2013 - 05:53
Yea Gob is right PD is most effective with infantry upgrades although still usable like it is!
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Ladataan...
Ladataan...
02.11.2013 - 06:13
I actually managed to defeat 2 players as PD China. America was too tough, so we had to ally end.

And yeah, as I said, I failed a bit on the upgrades.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
04.11.2013 - 11:38
Kirjoittanut Aristos, 02.11.2013 at 03:30
I just don't understand, how the hell do I defend against multiple 30+ invasion stacks, yet manage to punch a good counter-attack? It seems all I do is defend all the time.

And also, how in God's name does one manage to amass such forces? 30 bombers, air transport, tanks and infantry... Yes, I realize his regions must be poorly defended because of this, but there's no resources to sneak marines in and still defend myself. I gotta pour every reinf. on defending or I'm capped.

It depends what game you are playing? Are you playing Europe, or world? At what stage are you, did the game just begin? Are we mid-game? Do you own a continent, half of it, a few countries?

Since you complain about stacks of 30 units, which really are minor stacks, I reckon that you are not talking about large scale world map fighting. In this case you probably shouldn't try to infiltrate enemy positions with marines all too much. You will have to find a balance here, first priority is always defense. You can only build an attack on solid defending.

Meaning: anticipate an attack, build infantry and amass it where you deem the attack to take place. If you hold comparable power to your enemies you will always manage to do this rather well. Maybe you will lose some territory eventually, but you shouldn't mind or try to avoid this at all costs. Sometimes it's better to pull back over a few low income countries, e.g. Balkans. Do this only when you've emptied them up though, make sure to leave no reinforcements to build.
Once the reinforcement week approaches, set up marines to retake them in exactly that round. This way you can "swallow" up an enemy advance.

Picture it as a tidal wave. You got this 30s stack incoming through Turkey into the Balkans. You decide to pull back through the Balkans, build up infantry and hoard them in Vienna. By attacking the Balkans your enemy will always lose units (even more so if he splits) which he cannot reinforce directly since you've been forsightful enough to buy up all reinforcements (militia will do).
Now in Vienna you should always be able to put at least equal defense, you can get infantry from all of Mid Europe to there within 1 round.
Meanwhile, you've bought marines in Italy and put them into Bari, or whatever the name of that east-coast city is. Don't buy a transport just yet, your enemy will become suspicious.
Now, the tidal wave goes crushing over the Balkans right onto Vienna and may even take it- but by then has lost most of it's force. Ideally this happens with the next round being the reinforcement round- and now you buy the transport in Bari, embark your marines in the Balkans and retake everything.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
05.11.2013 - 00:41
It's usually world games, mid-game or a bit earlier, turn 20-ish. But it's just as you described it, it's usually Asia vs Europe (or similar).

Thanks for the tip, frankly I never thought of it that way.
Will make sure to try it out in-game.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
09.11.2013 - 16:46
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Kirjoittanut Goblin, 02.11.2013 at 05:34

Um ...players shouldnt buy upgrades in the order they are available. Capacity upgrades, increased range upgrades come first.

This is my favorite strategies according to ranks i was:

rank 0-4 ...Relentless attack
rank 5-8 ...Sky Menace
rank 9 ...Perfect Defense, Imperialist, Iron Fist, Blitzkrieg

Of course according to that i was buying upgrades and for example didn't use PD very much until i had the upgrades to use it the best way.


Eww Goblin RA, for rank 0-6 or until you get faster inf you should be using Imperialist and Imperialist alone. That's just my thing though. And yes that's what I did for those ranks. Imperialist imo is the most playable strat without upgrades. It's also pretty flexible. Even though I almost always use PD now Imp still sits #1 for favourite strat/strat most used and for a reason to. Don't waste SP on stuff like SM/Blitz until later. SM specifically seriously needs those air transport capacities imo. PD/IF need infantry upgrades, GW imo needs faster marines to excel with. MoS is fine if high money but besides that shrug. NC is usable just people make the mistake of only spamming Destroyers which isn't what your supposed to do exactly. Blitz imo is a strategy that needs experience more than anything else. RA, well I hate RA so I can't say because I have a clear bias towards it.
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Kirjoittanut Amok, 12.03.2012 at 07:05

Why? It's much easier with the popup thingie buttons...


Kirjoittanut Amok, 15.05.2013 at 06:51

Wow man, you're so wrong, I don't even know where to begin with
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
09.11.2013 - 17:52
^Imp is THE strat for noobs, I used it all the time before getting SM then even less after faster inf and playing with PD.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
09.11.2013 - 18:37
Biltz is great if you know how to play it.
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Ladataan...
Ladataan...
09.11.2013 - 18:42
AlexMeza
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Also, just a tip..
Hipster style works. Taking some cities and caps as late moves I do it a lot.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
09.11.2013 - 18:49
Kirjoittanut Guest, 09.11.2013 at 18:42

Also, just a tip..
Hipster style works. Taking some cities and caps as late moves I do it a lot.


Doesn't everyone?
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
09.11.2013 - 18:51
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Kirjoittanut Goblin, 09.11.2013 at 18:50



Eww Goblin RA, for rank 0-6 or until you get faster inf you should be using Imperialist and Imperialist alone. That's just my thing though. And yes that's what I did for those ranks. Imperialist imo is the most playable strat without upgrades. It's also pretty flexible. Even though I almost always use PD now Imp still sits #1 for favourite strat/strat most used and for a reason to. Don't waste SP on stuff like SM/Blitz until later. SM specifically seriously needs those air transport capacities imo. PD/IF need infantry upgrades, GW imo needs faster marines to excel with. MoS is fine if high money but besides that shrug. NC is usable just people make the mistake of only spamming Destroyers which isn't what your supposed to do exactly. Blitz imo is a strategy that needs experience more than anything else. RA, well I hate RA so I can't say because I have a clear bias towards it.


Why are you quoting me and did i need to read all this now?

I don't give a shit to be honest.


Don't post in forums then. Simple.
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10.11.2013 - 17:27
AlexMeza
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Lainaa:
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 10.11.2013 at 14:32

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 09.11.2013 at 18:53



Don't post in forums then. Simple.


Why the hell do you quote me now ...noticed alot of you guys having the need to comment and respond to every little thing on this forums ...wtf?


hi


Don't make this kind of jokes in forums.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 00:26
Kirjoittanut learster, 04.11.2013 at 11:38

Kirjoittanut Aristos, 02.11.2013 at 03:30
I just don't understand, how the hell do I defend against multiple 30+ invasion stacks, yet manage to punch a good counter-attack? It seems all I do is defend all the time.

And also, how in God's name does one manage to amass such forces? 30 bombers, air transport, tanks and infantry... Yes, I realize his regions must be poorly defended because of this, but there's no resources to sneak marines in and still defend myself. I gotta pour every reinf. on defending or I'm capped.

It depends what game you are playing? Are you playing Europe, or world? At what stage are you, did the game just begin? Are we mid-game? Do you own a continent, half of it, a few countries?

Since you complain about stacks of 30 units, which really are minor stacks, I reckon that you are not talking about large scale world map fighting. In this case you probably shouldn't try to infiltrate enemy positions with marines all too much. You will have to find a balance here, first priority is always defense. You can only build an attack on solid defending.

Meaning: anticipate an attack, build infantry and amass it where you deem the attack to take place. If you hold comparable power to your enemies you will always manage to do this rather well. Maybe you will lose some territory eventually, but you shouldn't mind or try to avoid this at all costs. Sometimes it's better to pull back over a few low income countries, e.g. Balkans. Do this only when you've emptied them up though, make sure to leave no reinforcements to build.
Once the reinforcement week approaches, set up marines to retake them in exactly that round. This way you can "swallow" up an enemy advance.

Picture it as a tidal wave. You got this 30s stack incoming through Turkey into the Balkans. You decide to pull back through the Balkans, build up infantry and hoard them in Vienna. By attacking the Balkans your enemy will always lose units (even more so if he splits) which he cannot reinforce directly since you've been forsightful enough to buy up all reinforcements (militia will do).
Now in Vienna you should always be able to put at least equal defense, you can get infantry from all of Mid Europe to there within 1 round.
Meanwhile, you've bought marines in Italy and put them into Bari, or whatever the name of that east-coast city is. Don't buy a transport just yet, your enemy will become suspicious.
Now, the tidal wave goes crushing over the Balkans right onto Vienna and may even take it- but by then has lost most of it's force. Ideally this happens with the next round being the reinforcement round- and now you buy the transport in Bari, embark your marines in the Balkans and retake everything.

^listen to it, this is the most helpful post so far and from a very good player.
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We are not the same - I am a... divided constellation?


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11.11.2013 - 07:40
Le Tunder
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Kirjoittanut Soul, 09.11.2013 at 16:46

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 02.11.2013 at 05:34

Um ...players shouldnt buy upgrades in the order they are available. Capacity upgrades, increased range upgrades come first.

This is my favorite strategies according to ranks i was:

rank 0-4 ...Relentless attack
rank 5-8 ...Sky Menace
rank 9 ...Perfect Defense, Imperialist, Iron Fist, Blitzkrieg

Of course according to that i was buying upgrades and for example didn't use PD very much until i had the upgrades to use it the best way.


Eww Goblin RA, for rank 0-6 or until you get faster inf you should be using Imperialist and Imperialist alone. That's just my thing though. And yes that's what I did for those ranks. Imperialist imo is the most playable strat without upgrades. It's also pretty flexible. Even though I almost always use PD now Imp still sits #1 for favourite strat/strat most used and for a reason to. Don't waste SP on stuff like SM/Blitz until later. SM specifically seriously needs those air transport capacities imo. PD/IF need infantry upgrades, GW imo needs faster marines to excel with. MoS is fine if high money but besides that shrug. NC is usable just people make the mistake of only spamming Destroyers which isn't what your supposed to do exactly. Blitz imo is a strategy that needs experience more than anything else. RA, well I hate RA so I can't say because I have a clear bias towards it.


I got SM since rank 3, i totally steamroll anybody below rank 8 with it
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 08:20
Kirjoittanut The Tactician, 11.11.2013 at 00:26

Kirjoittanut learster, 04.11.2013 at 11:38

Kirjoittanut Aristos, 02.11.2013 at 03:30
I just don't understand, how the hell do I defend against multiple 30+ invasion stacks, yet manage to punch a good counter-attack? It seems all I do is defend all the time.

And also, how in God's name does one manage to amass such forces? 30 bombers, air transport, tanks and infantry... Yes, I realize his regions must be poorly defended because of this, but there's no resources to sneak marines in and still defend myself. I gotta pour every reinf. on defending or I'm capped.

It depends what game you are playing? Are you playing Europe, or world? At what stage are you, did the game just begin? Are we mid-game? Do you own a continent, half of it, a few countries?

Since you complain about stacks of 30 units, which really are minor stacks, I reckon that you are not talking about large scale world map fighting. In this case you probably shouldn't try to infiltrate enemy positions with marines all too much. You will have to find a balance here, first priority is always defense. You can only build an attack on solid defending.

Meaning: anticipate an attack, build infantry and amass it where you deem the attack to take place. If you hold comparable power to your enemies you will always manage to do this rather well. Maybe you will lose some territory eventually, but you shouldn't mind or try to avoid this at all costs. Sometimes it's better to pull back over a few low income countries, e.g. Balkans. Do this only when you've emptied them up though, make sure to leave no reinforcements to build.
Once the reinforcement week approaches, set up marines to retake them in exactly that round. This way you can "swallow" up an enemy advance.

Picture it as a tidal wave. You got this 30s stack incoming through Turkey into the Balkans. You decide to pull back through the Balkans, build up infantry and hoard them in Vienna. By attacking the Balkans your enemy will always lose units (even more so if he splits) which he cannot reinforce directly since you've been forsightful enough to buy up all reinforcements (militia will do).
Now in Vienna you should always be able to put at least equal defense, you can get infantry from all of Mid Europe to there within 1 round.
Meanwhile, you've bought marines in Italy and put them into Bari, or whatever the name of that east-coast city is. Don't buy a transport just yet, your enemy will become suspicious.
Now, the tidal wave goes crushing over the Balkans right onto Vienna and may even take it- but by then has lost most of it's force. Ideally this happens with the next round being the reinforcement round- and now you buy the transport in Bari, embark your marines in the Balkans and retake everything.

^listen to it, this is the most helpful post so far and from a very good player.


Something I find wrong with this, marines should not be kept in cities in case they are attacked, port cities in particular are a big target, I always aim to capture port cities before attempting cap to prevent counter attacks.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 08:25
AlexMeza
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Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 07:40

Kirjoittanut Soul, 09.11.2013 at 16:46

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 02.11.2013 at 05:34

Um ...players shouldnt buy upgrades in the order they are available. Capacity upgrades, increased range upgrades come first.

This is my favorite strategies according to ranks i was:

rank 0-4 ...Relentless attack
rank 5-8 ...Sky Menace
rank 9 ...Perfect Defense, Imperialist, Iron Fist, Blitzkrieg

Of course according to that i was buying upgrades and for example didn't use PD very much until i had the upgrades to use it the best way.


Eww Goblin RA, for rank 0-6 or until you get faster inf you should be using Imperialist and Imperialist alone. That's just my thing though. And yes that's what I did for those ranks. Imperialist imo is the most playable strat without upgrades. It's also pretty flexible. Even though I almost always use PD now Imp still sits #1 for favourite strat/strat most used and for a reason to. Don't waste SP on stuff like SM/Blitz until later. SM specifically seriously needs those air transport capacities imo. PD/IF need infantry upgrades, GW imo needs faster marines to excel with. MoS is fine if high money but besides that shrug. NC is usable just people make the mistake of only spamming Destroyers which isn't what your supposed to do exactly. Blitz imo is a strategy that needs experience more than anything else. RA, well I hate RA so I can't say because I have a clear bias towards it.


I got SM since rank 3, i totally steamroll anybody below rank 8 with it


Please explain that. SM costs 10k.
Btw, I got SM when I was rank 5 (Not an alt xD) when ZOG told me and I didn't regret. I continued playing SM Spain till I got to rank 7 lol. I was playing against people of same rank so it was not hard.
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Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 09:28
Le Tunder
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Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 08:25

Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 07:40

Kirjoittanut Soul, 09.11.2013 at 16:46

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 02.11.2013 at 05:34

Um ...players shouldnt buy upgrades in the order they are available. Capacity upgrades, increased range upgrades come first.

This is my favorite strategies according to ranks i was:

rank 0-4 ...Relentless attack
rank 5-8 ...Sky Menace
rank 9 ...Perfect Defense, Imperialist, Iron Fist, Blitzkrieg

Of course according to that i was buying upgrades and for example didn't use PD very much until i had the upgrades to use it the best way.


Eww Goblin RA, for rank 0-6 or until you get faster inf you should be using Imperialist and Imperialist alone. That's just my thing though. And yes that's what I did for those ranks. Imperialist imo is the most playable strat without upgrades. It's also pretty flexible. Even though I almost always use PD now Imp still sits #1 for favourite strat/strat most used and for a reason to. Don't waste SP on stuff like SM/Blitz until later. SM specifically seriously needs those air transport capacities imo. PD/IF need infantry upgrades, GW imo needs faster marines to excel with. MoS is fine if high money but besides that shrug. NC is usable just people make the mistake of only spamming Destroyers which isn't what your supposed to do exactly. Blitz imo is a strategy that needs experience more than anything else. RA, well I hate RA so I can't say because I have a clear bias towards it.


I got SM since rank 3, i totally steamroll anybody below rank 8 with it


Please explain that. SM costs 10k.
Btw, I got SM when I was rank 5 (Not an alt xD) when ZOG told me and I didn't regret. I continued playing SM Spain till I got to rank 7 lol. I was playing against people of same rank so it was not hard.



It takes 10k sp (if i am not wrong) to rank from 0 to 4.
A premium player that didn't wasted his sp will have enough to buy SM for 9k.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 11:45
AlexMeza
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Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 09:28

Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 08:25

Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 07:40

Kirjoittanut Soul, 09.11.2013 at 16:46

Kirjoittanut Goblin, 02.11.2013 at 05:34

Um ...players shouldnt buy upgrades in the order they are available. Capacity upgrades, increased range upgrades come first.

This is my favorite strategies according to ranks i was:

rank 0-4 ...Relentless attack
rank 5-8 ...Sky Menace
rank 9 ...Perfect Defense, Imperialist, Iron Fist, Blitzkrieg

Of course according to that i was buying upgrades and for example didn't use PD very much until i had the upgrades to use it the best way.


Eww Goblin RA, for rank 0-6 or until you get faster inf you should be using Imperialist and Imperialist alone. That's just my thing though. And yes that's what I did for those ranks. Imperialist imo is the most playable strat without upgrades. It's also pretty flexible. Even though I almost always use PD now Imp still sits #1 for favourite strat/strat most used and for a reason to. Don't waste SP on stuff like SM/Blitz until later. SM specifically seriously needs those air transport capacities imo. PD/IF need infantry upgrades, GW imo needs faster marines to excel with. MoS is fine if high money but besides that shrug. NC is usable just people make the mistake of only spamming Destroyers which isn't what your supposed to do exactly. Blitz imo is a strategy that needs experience more than anything else. RA, well I hate RA so I can't say because I have a clear bias towards it.


I got SM since rank 3, i totally steamroll anybody below rank 8 with it


Please explain that. SM costs 10k.
Btw, I got SM when I was rank 5 (Not an alt xD) when ZOG told me and I didn't regret. I continued playing SM Spain till I got to rank 7 lol. I was playing against people of same rank so it was not hard.



It takes 10k sp (if i am not wrong) to rank from 0 to 4.
A premium player that didn't wasted his sp will have enough to buy SM for 9k.


I know, but..Rank 3 alt with premium?
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 14:07
Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 11.11.2013 at 13:58

Ive seen premium rank zero accounts lol, stranger things have happened


Are you sure that wasn't just the starting game options pack?
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 14:47
AlexMeza
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Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 11.11.2013 at 13:58

Ive seen premium rank zero accounts lol, stranger things have happened

I know, but I'm talking about a rank 3 ALT.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
11.11.2013 - 15:37
Kirjoittanut Guest, 11.11.2013 at 14:47

Kirjoittanut Permamuted, 11.11.2013 at 13:58

Ive seen premium rank zero accounts lol, stranger things have happened

I know, but I'm talking about a rank 3 ALT.


If people didn't do that then AW's devs might've banned excessive alt creation xD
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Ladataan...
Ladataan...
12.11.2013 - 14:08
When i was a low level, blitz was one the earliest strat I bought, because I knew movement was key to winning games, I even wrote on an article somewhere here about favorite strats on blitz long ago. I was unstoppable in world maps, killing all kind of ranks, I was under a diff name back then, but there on some youtube videos of me playing. I changed all that after one game, and started playing pd. Haven't look back since.

You can have any background in any strat as noob, as long as you are learning. The important part is to learn from your mistake. Apply what you know and you will succeed in this game and life.

Also, learn the game mechanics.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
16.11.2013 - 09:05
I like to build infantry

Sometime I build like 20 infantry.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
16.11.2013 - 11:07
AlexMeza
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Spam infantries. If you're still a newbie, use imp and spam them a lot. You can mix them with tanks sometimes but don't abuse it.
Ladataan...
Ladataan...
16.11.2013 - 11:58
 Soul
Kirjoittanut Guest, 16.11.2013 at 11:07

Spam infantries. If you're still a newbie, use imp and spam them a lot. You can mix them with tanks sometimes but don't abuse it.


This.
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Kirjoittanut Amok, 12.03.2012 at 07:05

Why? It's much easier with the popup thingie buttons...


Kirjoittanut Amok, 15.05.2013 at 06:51

Wow man, you're so wrong, I don't even know where to begin with
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