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22.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä USA and communism.
Kirjoittanut Andartes, 20.01.2021 at 11:44

Kirjoittanut International, 17.01.2021 at 07:09

One fascinating thing I noticed about any debate about "socialism" in the context of US politics is that this is a word that can be defined very narrowly or very expansively depending on whatever best suits the speaker's arguments.

When the motion of debate is "should we have socialism," self-described capitalists use the narrow definition of this word, to mean the distinct set of Soviet- or PRC-aligned communist dictatorships that existed in the Cold War, and of course we shouldn't have socialism, because of course we don't want famines, or political purges, or concentration camps, or what have you that characterise these historical communist dictatorships. From that perspective, why would anyone support socialism? What kind of monster would do that?

When the motion of debate switches to "what policies characterise socialism," however, anti-socialists suddenly do a 180-degree turn and define socialism extremely broadly, to mean basically any kind of intensive state intervention in the economy. Of course Western Europe is chock full of socialist states, and since we have already established that socialism is a thing that the United States shouldn't have, it follows that the United States should avoid implementing such radical socialist policies like universal healthcare that Europeans have.

And of course self-described communists do much the same thing, only the other way around.

So instead of trying to write a substantive argument on a foundation that won't support one, I will instead ask the original poster this. When you say that the United States should have "some communism", what, exactly, is meant by "some communism"? What policies does this entail and what social changes does it imply?

Without a clear and agreed-upon definition there can be no intellectually honest discussion.


What about Chinese Communism? One party state with market economy? Since oligarchs can hijack democracies, and votes doesn't matter anymore, we could simply copy Chinese politics: they are executing their corrupted individuals while supporting infrastructure, jobs, and citizen wellbeing.

You can't deny that market-based economies are the most efficient long-term and that authoritarianism is more efficient than democracy - where goals change every 4-5 years after elections, and authoritarian goals are there as long the regime exist.


Do you realize what made the great divergence happen? One of the main factors providing the way to the revolution is the absence of fucking absolutism.
It isnt just a coincidence that this revolution started in England out of all places. The great societies of Islam and China, while being advanced where overrided in less than a century.
Unless China becomes a free society and lets loose the authoritarian government it wont ever reach its full potential nor will it ever do what the free minds of the West did.
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22.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Russia losing my support
Russia is actually the one who profited highly from this war, especially geopolitically.
Russia is the one who brokered the peace deal and made everyone listen to him.

Secondly, Armenia had to be punished by Putin/ russian views. It was the Armenian president who went to the West and decided to be against Putin. The war was just to point out that the West would not help you and these countries can better ask for Russia to help.
Armenian president was West- oriented and against Putin etc. Letting Azerbaijzan win made this Western- oriented Armenian government lose its popular support. There really only two big countries who play the long game on internation politics, which are China and Russia. Its no wonder that Putin is in power since 1999.
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22.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä New clan!
This sounds like a new porn company
i look forward to your xvideos uploads!
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Kirjoittanut George Bush, 21.01.2021 at 21:59

Kirjoittanut Sean Spicer, 21.01.2021 at 15:37

It is not natural

animals do it

So do plants.
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Kirjoittanut Sean Spicer, 21.01.2021 at 15:37

It is not natural

animals do it
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä [DENIED] Appeal
Kirjoittanut Sascha, 21.01.2021 at 14:10

Kirjoittanut Philsfromthesoul, 21.01.2021 at 12:50

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Usually the mod who applied the punishment replies but since the mute will expire in 6 hours I don't think we need to go any further on this.
The initial reason why you got muted is this comment:
[2021-01-11 19:45:41.9619] Game [7280084], Philsfromthesoul [1270822]: kurds are turkish rape babies

and let me say looking through your chat logs I've seen more comments like this
Please just wait the 6 hours until the mute expires and if there's any issue after that time just contact a mod directly.

There isn't supposed to be appeals for anything less than 2 days.
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It is not natural and does not facilitate reproduction
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Kirjoittanut DeepFriedUnicorn, 21.01.2021 at 00:19

If you wank to women on a screen all the time you will be low T surely

why would i be low testosterone if i wank to women on a screen all the time lol
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Russia losing my support
Peoples would forget such country existed like Russia if they had no oil/gas and nukes. Its just mafia state with nukes. We can call it Saudi Arabia on streoids.
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Trophy > pcs
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Ranks in beginners/main
Kirjoittanut Philsfromthesoul, 21.01.2021 at 12:54

Allow high ranks to spectate beginners games
Ban ranks lower than 6 from main games but allow them to spectate

Merge both rooms into 1 but allow ranks 7 and under to set their own rank limit with a free acc.
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My entire clan are mods now
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä USA and communism.
Kirjoittanut Andartes, 20.01.2021 at 11:44
What about Chinese Communism? One party state with market economy? Since oligarchs can hijack democracies, and votes doesn't matter anymore, we could simply copy Chinese politics: they are executing their corrupted individuals while supporting infrastructure, jobs, and citizen wellbeing.

...and also putting an ethnic minority into concentration camps, suppressing democratic reform in Hong Kong, and making people that the Party doesn't like disappear. No thanks.

If China is our model for what a communist society looks like, then I will confidently assert myself as an anti-communist.

Kirjoittanut Andartes, 20.01.2021 at 11:44
You can't deny [...] that authoritarianism is more efficient than democracy - where goals change every 4-5 years after elections, and authoritarian goals are there as long the regime exist.

The government having a constant long-term goal is only a good thing if you happen to agree with said goal. It's more important that the government be kept in check by a powerful citizenry than it is that the government be able to carry out its agenda without challenge. Politicians tend to be self-interested, and can only be trusted to work in the people's interest only insofar as they need the people's approval to stay in power.
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä [DENIED] Appeal
Kirjoittanut Philsfromthesoul, 21.01.2021 at 12:50

...

Usually the mod who applied the punishment replies but since the mute will expire in 6 hours I don't think we need to go any further on this.
The initial reason why you got muted is this comment:
[2021-01-11 19:45:41.9619] Game [7280084], Philsfromthesoul [1270822]: kurds are turkish rape babies

and let me say looking through your chat logs I've seen more comments like this
Please just wait the 6 hours until the mute expires and if there's any issue after that time just contact a mod directly.
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Russia losing my support
Kirjoittanut Philsfromthesoul, 20.01.2021 at 14:16
I want an American-Russian alliance, it's time to bury the hatchet and work with each other. China is the greater threat.

No. Absolutely not. Have people already forgotten that Russia is providing aid and shelter to paramilitary leaders whose forces murdered European Union citizens in 2014?

The defence of the liberal-democratic world should be carried out by nations that share liberal-democratic values, lest they find themselves beholden to authoritarian strongmen like Putin. Certainly Western Europe needs to pick up the slack instead of continuing to rely on American protection, but the US must also provide a reliable and equitable partnership to its democratic allies - which it has completely failed at doing these past four years.
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Russia losing my support
Cool story kid keep thinking everyone does conspiracy against your nation when they helped you to quadruple it's size. As for who is europian and who not go back to Siberia and talk me from there. Only slavs i respect and want them to remain in europe are Gorani people. Rest should all be to their place of origin, Siberia.

Let europe for the autochthonous europians.
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Kirjoittanut Andartes, 21.01.2021 at 13:31

Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 21.01.2021 at 04:40

Serbs did mistake by letting Albanians overpopulate Kosovo. If we had 3 milions ppls there, it would be still Serbian.


Serbs had no influence as people at a time, it was politics. Fascist Albania was given Kosovo in WW2 and populated it with its people while kicking all the Serbs. When communists won in Yugoslavia, they didnt allow serbs to return to their homes and called them 'colonists', they wanted to give Kosovo to woo Albania to join Balkan Federation, just like they took Old Serbia and turned it into Macedonia(no hate, i still love you bros <3) to give Bulgaria in exchange to join BF.

Beside, albanians have more children per family, it was doomed from the start, serbs as europeans had 2 max. Different mentality, culture, tradition, religion... values.


Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 21.01.2021 at 04:40

USA have special deal with Alb. about extracting minerals from Kosovo. Thats only reason for unfair invasion on Serbia.


Correct, declassified US int. documents reveal CIA trained and funded KLA in Albania and controlled them inside Kosovo to create terror to force Serbia to reply with police, so NATO can invade. They even put KLA on their list of terrorist organizations. Its public knowledge by now, even wikipedia page about CIA have it.


Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 21.01.2021 at 04:40

Russians doesnt care neither for Armenia or Serbia. Same thing as Serbian Kosovo can happen with Russian Ukraine ( instead of bein part of your country/land it can become non friendly state and peoples, with NATO bases) in future.


That's the problem, because USA care. The point of Cold War is the get as close you can to the enemy superpower before you start the Hot War. If USA launch nukes from NA, Russia have 30 minutes to reply, if USA launches nukes from Ukraine, Russia have 5 minutes to reply. No time to even wake up Putin, let alone make a counter-strike decision.

USA i already consuming South American resources, and African, only Russian resources left for exploitation. If they've been patient for 50 years and Russia didn't collapse enough. They tried to provoke Russia into invading Ukraine so they can join, and failed, what other options are left - nukes.

And now Biden is the president, a guy who is not only evil but now old and senile. I am not saying he will launch nukes, but if this US culture of electing senile leaders continue, who knows how will 2040 look like. Reagan called USSR evil empire, Obama called Russia gas station, Hillary called Putin a thug, the US hostility is getting worse and worse.




Enjoy Joe taking out his frustrations on Russia because of the ¨Trump is a puppet of Putin¨ nonsense that has infected the brains of Democrats.
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Russia losing my support
Kirjoittanut Philsfromthesoul, 20.01.2021 at 14:16

I want an American-Russian alliance, it's time to bury the hatchet and work with each other. China is the greater threat.


Not possible, there is no balance of power like in 1989, where they can talk as equals. US desperately needs Russian resources, just not willing to pay market price. Values are also different, Western liberal vs Eastern conservative.

Russian Federation asked in 2000 to join NATO since Cold War and Communism ended, but they were rejected as 'too big' (source: vladimir pozner jr. & russia-nato relations on wikipedia)

Also, China is not a threat, i don't like that narrative where you must ally one and be hostile to another. This western mentality, or value, must stop. Too many lives and resources are spent on that in the last century. If some evil power arises, we will defeat it through UN army like in WW2, not by labeling some nation as 'threat' and then fighting 50 years of cold war with it.
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Russia losing my support
Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 21.01.2021 at 04:40

Serbs did mistake by letting Albanians overpopulate Kosovo. If we had 3 milions ppls there, it would be still Serbian.


Serbs had no influence as people at a time, it was politics. Fascist Albania was given Kosovo in WW2 and populated it with its people while kicking all the Serbs. When communists won in Yugoslavia, they didnt allow serbs to return to their homes and called them 'colonists', they wanted to give Kosovo to woo Albania to join Balkan Federation, just like they took Old Serbia and turned it into Macedonia(no hate, i still love you bros <3) to give Bulgaria in exchange to join BF.

Beside, albanians have more children per family, it was doomed from the start, serbs as europeans had 2 max. Different mentality, culture, tradition, religion... values.


Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 21.01.2021 at 04:40

USA have special deal with Alb. about extracting minerals from Kosovo. Thats only reason for unfair invasion on Serbia.


Correct, declassified US int. documents reveal CIA trained and funded KLA in Albania and controlled them inside Kosovo to create terror to force Serbia to reply with police, so NATO can invade. They even put KLA on their list of terrorist organizations. Its public knowledge by now, even wikipedia page about CIA have it.


Kirjoittanut Mauzer Panteri, 21.01.2021 at 04:40

Russians doesnt care neither for Armenia or Serbia. Same thing as Serbian Kosovo can happen with Russian Ukraine ( instead of bein part of your country/land it can become non friendly state and peoples, with NATO bases) in future.


That's the problem, because USA care. The point of Cold War is the get as close you can to the enemy superpower before you start the Hot War. If USA launch nukes from NA, Russia have 30 minutes to reply, if USA launches nukes from Ukraine, Russia have 5 minutes to reply. No time to even wake up Putin, let alone make a counter-strike decision.

USA i already consuming South American resources, and African, only Russian resources left for exploitation. If they've been patient for 50 years and Russia didn't collapse enough. They tried to provoke Russia into invading Ukraine so they can join, and failed, what other options are left - nukes.

And now Biden is the president, a guy who is not only evil but now old and senile. I am not saying he will launch nukes, but if this US culture of electing senile leaders continue, who knows how will 2040 look like. Reagan called USSR evil empire, Obama called Russia gas station, Hillary called Putin a thug, the US hostility is getting worse and worse.

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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Hypocrisy at its finest
I am concerned about the ongoing crisis in the USA and hope that regime will cease all violence and respect human rights.
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Why even have AI if the player can just cheese and fuck it over with WFing/turnblocking/ other tricks
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Allow high ranks to spectate beginners games
Ban ranks lower than 6 from main games but allow them to spectate
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JOE BIDEN IS AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT
JAN 6 PROTESTORS ARE HEROES
THEY ARE MARTYRED BY THE OILGARCH¨S JUSTICE SYSTEM
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä [DENIED] Appeal
If submitting from another account, what is the name of the original account: This is the account i'd like to appeal from

Moderator who took action against you: Cold Case

What was the action taken against you: Muted on game channel for who knows how long

Reason for action taken against you: Do not know

Have you had warnings or prior actions taken against you for the same or similar offense: Muted on global for 7 days during the election for giving election updates while advertising games on global

Why that action should be repealed/reduced: I don´t even know what I did, so it´s hard to plead for parole on something I don´t know
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21.01.2021 :ssa/:ssä Americans scammed again
Kirjoittanut avatar, 20.01.2021 at 15:06

2:20 americans give dollars


Around 2005, i was watching some Discovery show where group of Americans travel Europe by bikes, when they reached Serbian border, one of them started giving out dollar bills for some reason, like he was in Afghanistan, and when he approached one serb, he said no let me give you money to F off, it was hilarious, but i can't find it on youtube i don't know what to search (on latin or cyrilic, english or serbian or ijekavian)
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New Game Starting Now

Panzer General V

https://atwar-game.com/games/?link=4127293677

1. Game Features:

Here are enhancements for the current release of Panzer General:

1. The truck mounted, Katyusha Rocket launcher unit was added. Unit build is restricted to the USSR.
2. An oil resource was added to Canada East.
3. All fighter/interceptor unit's defence was decreased except for fighter/escort units.
4. Chinese Infantry unit's attack and defence was increased.
4. All Bomber units movement was increased.
5. Chicago is no longer a port.
6. Pearl Harbor is now a port.

There are no changes to the player countries:

Axis Countries
1. Germany: Includes Germany and European satellite countries.
2. Italy: Includes Italy, Albania and African colonies.
3. Spain: Includes Spain, Spanish Morocco and South American colonies.
4. Japan: Includes Japan, North and South Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan and parts of China.

Allied Countries
5. Britain: Includes Australia, Britain, Canada, China, Egypt, India, South Africa
6. France: Includes France and colonies.
7. USA: Includes Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the continental USA.
8. USSR: Includes all Soviet republics.


2. Known Bugs:

If you run into an error, inconsistency or better yet suggestion for the game, send me a message. Thanks.

3. Game Protocol:

1. Please do not move units outside of your home country on turn one (1). Player's who move units outside of their home country on turn one (1) will be required to either forfeit a turn or the game. Repeat violations will result in the player not being invited to future games. Players may wall cities during turn one (1).

2. If at all possible, do not leave a game prematurely, particularly in the early turns. Leaving the game prematurely by timing out is disruptive to the game and other players in the game.

3. Finally, whenever possible, take your turn in a timely manner. Most games have a 48 hour time limit. This does not mean that you need to wait 48 hours before taking your turn. Please be considerate of other players in the game.


4. Player's Invitation List:

1. If you do not wish to receive invitations to future games, send me a message and I will remove you from the list. No questions asked. Please understand that once removed, your name will not be added back. No dithering please.

2. Players who have been inactive in atWar for more than 7 days are automatically removed from the Player's Invitation List. Players will only be added back to the list upon request.


Good luck to all...

Commodus, Game Admin
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Kirjoittanut Konstantin_Bodin, 21.01.2021 at 06:38

WHAT? ah ....this dais all noobs caan be mods and toxic people....wd is toxic and noob and bush is noob


I tried to put this into a rational argument but they are right we need more mods.

Nevertheless I agree with you.
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Kirjoittanut Khauman, 21.01.2021 at 10:17

Kirjoittanut Ivan., 21.01.2021 at 10:12

Kirjoittanut Khauman, 21.01.2021 at 09:34

Kirjoittanut Ivan., 21.01.2021 at 08:07

Nice Idea but not really worth for this game.

If you think that way nothing should be done for this game, we will never move forward

you just thinking of sweet cake but not the effort, time, cost, testing above all training machine with every strategy, moves and alot more.

As Dave said before it will be a big task and will be a while.

I just shared my opinion not yours or his
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Kirjoittanut Ivan., 21.01.2021 at 10:12

Kirjoittanut Khauman, 21.01.2021 at 09:34

Kirjoittanut Ivan., 21.01.2021 at 08:07

Nice Idea but not really worth for this game.

If you think that way nothing should be done for this game, we will never move forward

you just thinking of sweet cake but not the effort, time, cost, testing above all training machine with every strategy, moves and alot more.

As Dave said before it will be a big task and will be a while.
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